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uh we'll be talking about very brief
 

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uh we'll be talking about very brief
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examples of trauma. We won't go too much
 

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examples of trauma. We won't go too much
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into detail, but sometimes hearing about
 

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into detail, but sometimes hearing about
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examples of practice and trauma when
 

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examples of practice and trauma when
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you're in a training session or webinar
 

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you're in a training session or webinar
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is very different from listening to it
 

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is very different from listening to it
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in your day-to-day practice. Uh so if
 

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in your day-to-day practice. Uh so if
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you do feel impacted by this session,
 

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you do feel impacted by this session,
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make sure you have someone you trust
 

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make sure you have someone you trust
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that you can talk to, whether it's a
 

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that you can talk to, whether it's a
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trusted colleague, a supervisor, or an
 

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trusted colleague, a supervisor, or an
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EAP if you're in an organization.
 

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EAP if you're in an organization.
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Next slide, please.
 

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Next slide, please.
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So today we'll talk about specific
 

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So today we'll talk about specific
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aspects of trauma informed practice.
 

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aspects of trauma informed practice.
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Trauma from practice is a massive
 

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Trauma from practice is a massive
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subject. We won't be able to cover
 

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subject. We won't be able to cover
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everything in an hour. We will be
 

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everything in an hour. We will be
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talking uh about creating safety and a
 

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talking uh about creating safety and a
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truly collaborative approach to decision
 

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truly collaborative approach to decision
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making. Uh we'll talk also about having
 

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making. Uh we'll talk also about having
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a shared language across disciplines and
 

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a shared language across disciplines and
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how that can support good outcomes uh in
 

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how that can support good outcomes uh in
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terms of trauma informed practice and
 

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terms of trauma informed practice and
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also about reflective practice and how
 

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also about reflective practice and how
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important and central it is to trauma
 

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important and central it is to trauma
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informed practice. Um, we'll also uh
 

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informed practice. Um, we'll also uh
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talk about trauma informed risk
 

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talk about trauma informed risk
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management and how to support people
 

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management and how to support people
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feeling safe in a trauma-informed
 

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feeling safe in a trauma-informed
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manner. And we'll talk about supporting
 

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manner. And we'll talk about supporting
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worker safety and well-being as well
 

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worker safety and well-being as well
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because that's so central to being
 

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because that's so central to being
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Next slide, please.
 

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Next slide, please.
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So uh as I mentioned throughout this
 

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So uh as I mentioned throughout this
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session we'll be mentioning
 

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session we'll be mentioning
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a whole range of resources that can
 

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a whole range of resources that can
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support you in your trauma informed
 

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support you in your trauma informed
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practice and that we'll be pointing to
 

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practice and that we'll be pointing to
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from time to time during the webinar. Uh
 

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from time to time during the webinar. Uh
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they available on the link uh just here
 

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they available on the link uh just here
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at Phoenix Australia. Um, Aken can also
 

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at Phoenix Australia. Um, Aken can also
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put the link into the chat as well and
 

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put the link into the chat as well and
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it's backed up by a whole range of
 

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it's backed up by a whole range of
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longer training if you're interested in
 

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longer training if you're interested in
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having further training.
 

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having further training.
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Uh before we talk start talking about
 

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Uh before we talk start talking about
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trauma informed practice, I really want
 

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trauma informed practice, I really want
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to make sure we have a common definition
 

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to make sure we have a common definition
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of trauma uh that cuts across all the
 

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of trauma uh that cuts across all the
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very different models of trauma-informed
 

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very different models of trauma-informed
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practice we hear about. Um
 

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practice we hear about. Um
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it's really important to think about
 

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it's really important to think about
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trauma not just from an individual
 

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trauma not just from an individual
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perspective but from a systemic
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individual but their families. The
 

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individual but their families. The
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individual themselves may be part of a
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community that's experienced trauma
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sometimes across generations. And it's
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really important to think about trauma
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in terms of what maintains and creates
 

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in terms of what maintains and creates
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trauma in the first place and how that
 

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trauma in the first place and how that
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may impact on your practice. So often
 

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may impact on your practice. So often
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with trauma what we see is that it comes
 

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with trauma what we see is that it comes
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with a range of risk factors around
 

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with a range of risk factors around
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discrimination like racism for example,
 

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discrimination like racism for example,
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poverty, social exclusion. Uh and these
 

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poverty, social exclusion. Uh and these
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things not only can lead to experiencing
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more trauma. So a classic example is
 

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more trauma. So a classic example is
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family violence and that norms around
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gender and gender inequality can you
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know are a risk factor for domestic
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violence but they also create barriers
 

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violence but they also create barriers
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to help seeking and to be trauma
 

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to help seeking and to be trauma
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informed you really have to think about
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how all these psychosocial factors
 

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how all these psychosocial factors
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around the person those systemic factors
 

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around the person those systemic factors
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create barriers to getting your help and
 

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create barriers to getting your help and
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your support. Um, and what does that
 

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your support. Um, and what does that
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mean for your approach, the environment
 

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mean for your approach, the environment
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in which you work, uh, who you are and
 

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in which you work, uh, who you are and
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how you provide services, your workplace
 

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how you provide services, your workplace
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culture, and even partnership with
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services. So, we'll mention that
 

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services. So, we'll mention that
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trauma informed care and its aims. So as
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as I just said, one of the critical
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things in trauma informed practice is to
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minimize the barriers that people
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services include and that includes
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um things like you know how does a
 

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um things like you know how does a
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both impact on trauma but the way
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they're going to really relate to me and
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the service I'm in and addressing that
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harmful to people who have experienced
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trauma. So an example of that is that
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you might be in private practice
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um and you are supporting someone
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through their trauma. The fact that
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you're supporting them already puts you
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the relationship. You're the one making
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the assessment with them. You're the one
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providing advice and support. And
 

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providing advice and support. And
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sometimes power and having someone that
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has a little bit more power than
 

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has a little bit more power than
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yourself when you've experienced trauma
 

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yourself when you've experienced trauma
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can feel incredibly threatening and can
 

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can feel incredibly threatening and can
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feel coercive, particularly if you've
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been harmed by someone else. So thinking
 

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been harmed by someone else. So thinking
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about, you know, are there things that
 

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about, you know, are there things that
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are inherent to service delivery that
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might be experienced as harmful or
 

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might be experienced as harmful or
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actually harmful like restrictive
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behaviors like using too many um drugs
 

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behaviors like using too many um drugs
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to restrict um
 

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to restrict um
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people being really uh distressed in
 

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people being really uh distressed in
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hospital settings for example.
 

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hospital settings for example.
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Uh trauma informed practice is also
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about supporting recovery from the
 

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about supporting recovery from the
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impacts of trauma no matter what your
 

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impacts of trauma no matter what your
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role is. So, it's thinking about
 

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role is. So, it's thinking about
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recovery even if you're someone on the
 

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recovery even if you're someone on the
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phone, you know, assessing someone to
 

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phone, you know, assessing someone to
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see if they can go on a waiting list for
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your service and you're an intake
 

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your service and you're an intake
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worker. Even then is thinking about how
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can I support someone's recovery by
 

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can I support someone's recovery by
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getting them to feel safe and understand
 

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getting them to feel safe and understand
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what the aims of the services are and
 

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what the aims of the services are and
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feeling like uh there's no sense of
 

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feeling like uh there's no sense of
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hopelessness as I'm waiting for to be on
 

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hopelessness as I'm waiting for to be on
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that waiting list for the next two
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months for example. Um and as I said
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critical to trauma informed practice is
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worker safety and well-being. It's
 

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worker safety and well-being. It's
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impossible to be trauma informed without
 

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impossible to be trauma informed without
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feeling uh safe yourself.
 

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feeling uh safe yourself.
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Next slide please.
 

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Next slide please.
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range of uh principles of practice. Um
 

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range of uh principles of practice. Um
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principle in this webinar because we're
 

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principle in this webinar because we're
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going to focus only on some principles.
 

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going to focus only on some principles.
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But one of the things that I want to
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mention is that for us as we're going to
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be speaking to you throughout the day,
 

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be speaking to you throughout the day,
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the the hour is to to really think about
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um how service users, their families,
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their carers or your clients have a
 

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their carers or your clients have a
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central voice uh throughout the care
 

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central voice uh throughout the care
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they receive. So that means, you know,
 

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they receive. So that means, you know,
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feeling like they have choices, feeling
 

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feeling like they have choices, feeling
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like they understand their care, that
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they can provide consent, but also that
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they're seen and that they empowered to
 

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they're seen and that they empowered to
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make decisions throughout the process.
 

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make decisions throughout the process.
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For us, that's really really important
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and something we're going to talk about
 

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and something we're going to talk about
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throughout this uh webinar.
 

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throughout this uh webinar.
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Next slide, please.
 

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Next slide, please.
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So let's talk uh in practical terms
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about what it means to create emotional
 

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about what it means to create emotional
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and physical safety in trauma informed
 

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and physical safety in trauma informed
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practice. Um what we're talking about
 

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practice. Um what we're talking about
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here first and foremost is really making
 

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here first and foremost is really making
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sure that you understand the experience
 

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sure that you understand the experience
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of a person's um how a person has
 

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of a person's um how a person has
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experienced trauma throughout their life
 

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experienced trauma throughout their life
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and ensuring that the dynamic between
 

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and ensuring that the dynamic between
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you and that person or the dynamic set
 

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you and that person or the dynamic set
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up by your service doesn't reproduce
 

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up by your service doesn't reproduce
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what's happened in a trauma. So being
 

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what's happened in a trauma. So being
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mindful that if you're making decision,
 

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mindful that if you're making decision,
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you're making decision with a person and
 

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you're making decision with a person and
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you're not replaying a sense of
 

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you're not replaying a sense of
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powerlessness in the relationship. For
 

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powerlessness in the relationship. For
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example, uh that if the person was in
 

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example, uh that if the person was in
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situation like a bushfire or an accident
 

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situation like a bushfire or an accident
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or a family violence uh uh
 

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or a family violence uh uh
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situation where there's a lot of
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uncertainty that you're not reproducing
 

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uncertainty that you're not reproducing
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lots of uncertainty as they travel
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through the service system or receiving
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care from you. Everything is as
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predictable as possibly can be for
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example. And it's making sure that you
 

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example. And it's making sure that you
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have spaces that are accessible and
 

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have spaces that are accessible and
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culturally inclusive and feel safe. So
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that means that they walk into a space
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being, that they're being seen, uh that
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language, for example, that they feel
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welcomed uh and that they don't feel
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uncomfortable as they are sitting with
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hierarchy to thinking about safety in a
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relationship and many of you may be
 

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relationship and many of you may be
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familiar with this but it's really core
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to trauma informed practice and that
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that f first and foremost trauma impacts
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on your safety both within yourself and
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within relationships. So it impacts on
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your ability to trust other people.
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place, other people are safe. But it can
 

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place, other people are safe. But it can
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also impact on your physiological
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safety. So often as we know trauma leads
 

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safety. So often as we know trauma leads
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to um a sense of being always on the
 

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to um a sense of being always on the
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lookout for danger, always tense, always
 

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lookout for danger, always tense, always
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hyper alert. And that means that often
 

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hyper alert. And that means that often
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you don't feel safe within yourself,
 

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you don't feel safe within yourself,
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within your body.
 

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within your body.
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uh you might not be able to trust that
 

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uh you might not be able to trust that
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you can help yourself not feel angry all
 

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you can help yourself not feel angry all
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the time or not being able to sleep for
 

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the time or not being able to sleep for
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example. So when we think about safety,
 

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example. So when we think about safety,
it's<00:10:08.240><c> creating</c><00:10:09.040><c> a</c><00:10:09.360><c> safe</c><00:10:09.680><c> relationship</c><00:10:10.640><c> where</c>

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it's creating a safe relationship where
 

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it's creating a safe relationship where
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there's warmth and respect uh and
 

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there's warmth and respect uh and
kindness<00:10:14.240><c> and</c><00:10:14.560><c> where</c><00:10:14.800><c> a</c><00:10:14.959><c> person</c><00:10:15.279><c> feels</c><00:10:15.680><c> seen.</c>

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kindness and where a person feels seen.
 

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kindness and where a person feels seen.
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But it's also about feeling safe within
 

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But it's also about feeling safe within
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your body and feeling calm and being
 

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your body and feeling calm and being
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with someone that doesn't parallel your
 

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with someone that doesn't parallel your
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own tension and your own panic or your
 

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own tension and your own panic or your
own<00:10:27.200><c> fears.</c><00:10:27.680><c> So</c><00:10:28.079><c> someone</c><00:10:28.399><c> that</c><00:10:28.560><c> doesn't</c>

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own fears. So someone that doesn't
 

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own fears. So someone that doesn't
react,<00:10:29.279><c> that's</c><00:10:29.600><c> calm,</c><00:10:30.320><c> that</c><00:10:30.560><c> uses</c><00:10:30.959><c> themselves</c>

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react, that's calm, that uses themselves
 

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react, that's calm, that uses themselves
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and co-regulates with you. that means
 

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and co-regulates with you. that means
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feel calm with you uh rather than just
 

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feel calm with you uh rather than just
giving<00:10:38.160><c> you</c><00:10:38.480><c> techniques</c><00:10:38.880><c> to</c><00:10:39.200><c> feel</c><00:10:39.440><c> calms</c><00:10:40.240><c> for</c>

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giving you techniques to feel calms for
 

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giving you techniques to feel calms for
example.

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example.
 

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example.
Uh<00:10:42.320><c> it's</c><00:10:42.880><c> it's</c><00:10:43.360><c> then</c><00:10:43.680><c> about</c><00:10:44.880><c> providing</c><00:10:45.600><c> things</c>

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Uh it's it's then about providing things
 

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Uh it's it's then about providing things
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that might help information that might
 

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that might help information that might
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help you feel safe like these are what
 

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help you feel safe like these are what
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you can expect from what we're going to
 

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you can expect from what we're going to
do<00:10:53.440><c> together.</c><00:10:54.240><c> This</c><00:10:54.480><c> is</c><00:10:54.800><c> what</c><00:10:55.839><c> uh</c><00:10:56.000><c> how</c><00:10:56.240><c> we're</c>

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do together. This is what uh how we're
 

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do together. This is what uh how we're
going<00:10:56.560><c> to</c><00:10:57.279><c> problem</c><00:10:57.680><c> solve</c><00:10:58.079><c> together.</c><00:10:59.040><c> Um,</c>

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going to problem solve together. Um,
 

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going to problem solve together. Um,
I'm,<00:11:00.399><c> you</c><00:11:00.560><c> know,</c><00:11:00.720><c> I'm</c><00:11:00.959><c> your</c><00:11:01.279><c> partner</c><00:11:01.600><c> and</c>

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I'm, you know, I'm your partner and
 

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I'm, you know, I'm your partner and
we're<00:11:02.160><c> going</c><00:11:02.240><c> to</c><00:11:02.399><c> do</c><00:11:02.640><c> things</c><00:11:02.959><c> together</c><00:11:03.440><c> and</c>

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we're going to do things together and
 

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we're going to do things together and
we're<00:11:04.079><c> going</c><00:11:04.160><c> to</c><00:11:04.320><c> work</c><00:11:04.560><c> together.</c><00:11:05.760><c> Uh,</c><00:11:06.640><c> this</c>

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we're going to work together. Uh, this
 

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we're going to work together. Uh, this
is<00:11:07.040><c> where</c><00:11:07.279><c> you</c><00:11:07.440><c> might</c><00:11:07.680><c> give</c><00:11:07.920><c> information</c>

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is where you might give information
 

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is where you might give information
about<00:11:08.720><c> consent</c><00:11:09.120><c> and</c><00:11:09.440><c> making</c><00:11:09.680><c> sure</c><00:11:09.920><c> people</c>

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about consent and making sure people
 

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about consent and making sure people
feel<00:11:10.560><c> like</c><00:11:10.800><c> they</c><00:11:11.200><c> can</c><00:11:11.440><c> change</c><00:11:11.680><c> their</c><00:11:11.920><c> mind,</c>

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feel like they can change their mind,
 

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feel like they can change their mind,
that<00:11:12.399><c> they</c><00:11:12.560><c> can</c><00:11:12.720><c> consent</c><00:11:13.120><c> to</c><00:11:13.360><c> sharing</c>

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that they can consent to sharing
 

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that they can consent to sharing
information,<00:11:14.959><c> but</c><00:11:15.200><c> that</c><00:11:15.600><c> really</c><00:11:15.920><c> comes</c><00:11:16.320><c> last</c>

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information, but that really comes last
 

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information, but that really comes last
into<00:11:17.279><c> creating</c><00:11:17.839><c> safety.</c><00:11:18.959><c> And</c><00:11:19.200><c> often</c><00:11:19.519><c> what</c><00:11:19.760><c> I</c>

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into creating safety. And often what I
 

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into creating safety. And often what I
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see is people don't really think about
 

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see is people don't really think about
that<00:11:23.519><c> hierarchy</c><00:11:24.240><c> and</c><00:11:24.880><c> safety</c><00:11:25.279><c> is</c><00:11:25.519><c> not</c><00:11:25.760><c> there</c>

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that hierarchy and safety is not there
 

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that hierarchy and safety is not there
for<00:11:26.880><c> the</c><00:11:27.120><c> person</c><00:11:27.440><c> attending</c><00:11:27.920><c> the</c><00:11:28.160><c> service.</c>

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for the person attending the service.
 

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for the person attending the service.
Next<00:11:29.360><c> slide</c><00:11:29.760><c> please.</c>

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Next slide please.
 

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Next slide please.
The<00:11:32.160><c> other</c><00:11:32.399><c> thing</c><00:11:32.560><c> to</c><00:11:32.880><c> think</c><00:11:33.120><c> about</c><00:11:34.000><c> in</c><00:11:34.320><c> both</c>

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The other thing to think about in both
 

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The other thing to think about in both
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creating safety but also making sure
 

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creating safety but also making sure
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that people have a sense of power and
 

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that people have a sense of power and
control<00:11:39.600><c> when</c><00:11:39.920><c> they</c><00:11:40.399><c> interacting</c><00:11:40.959><c> with</c><00:11:41.200><c> you</c>

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control when they interacting with you
 

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control when they interacting with you
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is that they have a sense of choice.
 

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is that they have a sense of choice.
Now,<00:11:44.560><c> choice</c><00:11:44.880><c> is</c><00:11:45.200><c> not</c><00:11:45.519><c> just</c><00:11:45.839><c> about</c><00:11:47.200><c> making</c>

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Now, choice is not just about making
 

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Now, choice is not just about making
decisions<00:11:48.240><c> together</c><00:11:48.640><c> and</c><00:11:48.959><c> having</c><00:11:49.200><c> enough</c>

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decisions together and having enough
 

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decisions together and having enough
information<00:11:50.079><c> to</c><00:11:50.399><c> make</c><00:11:50.640><c> those</c><00:11:50.880><c> decisions.</c>

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information to make those decisions.
 

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information to make those decisions.
It's<00:11:52.160><c> really</c><00:11:52.480><c> feeling</c><00:11:52.800><c> like</c><00:11:53.600><c> things</c><00:11:53.839><c> are</c><00:11:54.079><c> not</c>

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It's really feeling like things are not
 

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It's really feeling like things are not
being<00:11:54.480><c> done</c><00:11:54.720><c> to</c><00:11:54.959><c> you,</c><00:11:55.600><c> but</c><00:11:55.839><c> you're</c><00:11:56.160><c> doing</c>

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being done to you, but you're doing
 

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being done to you, but you're doing
things<00:11:56.880><c> with</c><00:11:57.279><c> the</c><00:11:57.600><c> person</c><00:11:58.240><c> the</c><00:11:58.560><c> whole</c><00:11:58.800><c> way</c>

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things with the person the whole way
 

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things with the person the whole way
through<00:11:59.760><c> so</c><00:11:59.920><c> that</c><00:12:00.160><c> you</c><00:12:00.480><c> have</c><00:12:01.360><c> uh</c><00:12:01.760><c> enough</c>

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through so that you have uh enough
 

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through so that you have uh enough
information<00:12:02.880><c> and</c><00:12:03.200><c> you</c><00:12:03.360><c> feel</c><00:12:03.680><c> seen</c><00:12:04.079><c> enough</c>

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information and you feel seen enough
 

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information and you feel seen enough
that<00:12:04.800><c> you</c><00:12:04.959><c> feel</c><00:12:05.120><c> like</c><00:12:05.440><c> you're</c><00:12:05.760><c> a</c><00:12:06.000><c> team</c><00:12:06.320><c> working</c>

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that you feel like you're a team working
 

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that you feel like you're a team working
together.

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together.
 

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together.
uh<00:12:08.880><c> and</c><00:12:09.200><c> that</c><00:12:09.440><c> means</c><00:12:09.680><c> that</c><00:12:09.839><c> you</c><00:12:10.000><c> have</c>

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uh and that means that you have
 

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uh and that means that you have
visibility<00:12:11.120><c> in</c><00:12:11.440><c> the</c><00:12:11.600><c> relationship</c><00:12:12.320><c> that</c><00:12:12.560><c> you</c>

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visibility in the relationship that you
 

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visibility in the relationship that you
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have a voice in that relationship and it
 

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have a voice in that relationship and it
may<00:12:15.600><c> mean</c><00:12:15.920><c> things</c><00:12:16.240><c> like</c><00:12:17.680><c> checking</c><00:12:18.160><c> in</c><00:12:18.639><c> and</c>

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may mean things like checking in and
 

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may mean things like checking in and
making<00:12:19.360><c> sure</c><00:12:19.519><c> that</c><00:12:19.839><c> what</c><00:12:20.079><c> you're</c><00:12:20.320><c> doing</c><00:12:20.560><c> with</c>

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making sure that what you're doing with
 

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making sure that what you're doing with
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that person works for them and fits for
 

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that person works for them and fits for
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them. So there is very good evidence for
 

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them. So there is very good evidence for
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example in counseling that asking every
 

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example in counseling that asking every
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session or every other session are we on
 

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session or every other session are we on
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the same page here? Uh, is there
 

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the same page here? Uh, is there
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anything that's getting in the way of
 

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anything that's getting in the way of
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you feeling comfortable with me? Uh, but
 

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you feeling comfortable with me? Uh, but
asking<00:12:39.519><c> those</c><00:12:39.839><c> question</c><00:12:40.240><c> making</c><00:12:40.560><c> them</c><00:12:40.800><c> overt</c>

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asking those question making them overt
 

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asking those question making them overt
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is so incredibly important for the
 

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is so incredibly important for the
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person to feel like they can say, "Oh,
 

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person to feel like they can say, "Oh,
I've<00:12:45.279><c> changed</c><00:12:45.519><c> my</c><00:12:45.680><c> mind.</c><00:12:45.920><c> No,</c><00:12:46.160><c> I</c><00:12:46.320><c> don't</c><00:12:46.480><c> think</c>

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I've changed my mind. No, I don't think
 

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I've changed my mind. No, I don't think
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you get my point of view." It's also, as
 

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you get my point of view." It's also, as
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I said before, about predictability and
 

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I said before, about predictability and
knowing<00:12:51.839><c> what</c><00:12:52.079><c> to</c><00:12:52.320><c> expect</c><00:12:52.720><c> and</c><00:12:53.040><c> what's</c><00:12:53.440><c> next.</c>

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knowing what to expect and what's next.
 

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knowing what to expect and what's next.
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And it's not just about setting
 

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And it's not just about setting
expectation<00:12:57.360><c> by</c><00:12:57.680><c> providing</c><00:12:58.240><c> information</c>

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expectation by providing information
 

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expectation by providing information
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about what's going to happen next. It's
 

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about what's going to happen next. It's
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also doing what you say you will do of
 

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also doing what you say you will do of
not<00:13:03.519><c> overpromising.</c>

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not overpromising.
 

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not overpromising.
Uh<00:13:06.000><c> really</c><00:13:06.800><c> making</c><00:13:07.200><c> sure</c><00:13:07.440><c> that</c><00:13:07.680><c> the</c><00:13:08.000><c> person</c><00:13:08.959><c> is</c>

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Uh really making sure that the person is
 

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Uh really making sure that the person is
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able to also sit with information and
 

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able to also sit with information and
digest<00:13:12.000><c> it.</c><00:13:12.959><c> Uh</c><00:13:13.360><c> not</c><00:13:13.680><c> rushing</c><00:13:14.160><c> through</c>

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digest it. Uh not rushing through
 

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digest it. Uh not rushing through
explanation,<00:13:15.279><c> those</c><00:13:15.519><c> sorts</c><00:13:15.760><c> of</c><00:13:15.920><c> things.</c><00:13:16.639><c> And</c>

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explanation, those sorts of things. And
 

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explanation, those sorts of things. And
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also making sure you've got a practical
 

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also making sure you've got a practical
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fit with the person you're working with.
 

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fit with the person you're working with.
Are<00:13:22.800><c> you</c><00:13:22.959><c> giving</c><00:13:23.360><c> information</c><00:13:23.920><c> choices</c><00:13:24.399><c> that</c>

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Are you giving information choices that
 

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Are you giving information choices that
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fit with their context and their needs?
 

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fit with their context and their needs?
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Uh for example, thinking about the
 

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Uh for example, thinking about the
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effects of trauma and how that might
 

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effects of trauma and how that might
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impact on that person. You know, are you
 

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impact on that person. You know, are you
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asking them to do things when you
 

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asking them to do things when you
haven't<00:13:35.760><c> addressed</c><00:13:36.160><c> avoidance</c><00:13:36.959><c> and</c><00:13:37.200><c> they</c>

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haven't addressed avoidance and they
 

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haven't addressed avoidance and they
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they're doing everything they can to not
 

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they're doing everything they can to not
feel,<00:13:40.000><c> think,</c><00:13:40.480><c> or</c><00:13:41.440><c> avoid</c><00:13:42.560><c> reminders</c><00:13:43.040><c> of</c><00:13:43.200><c> the</c>

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feel, think, or avoid reminders of the
 

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feel, think, or avoid reminders of the
trauma<00:13:43.839><c> and</c><00:13:44.079><c> you're</c><00:13:44.320><c> asking</c><00:13:44.639><c> them</c><00:13:44.880><c> to</c>

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trauma and you're asking them to
 

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trauma and you're asking them to
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confront something they're not ready to
 

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confront something they're not ready to
confront?<00:13:47.200><c> Or</c><00:13:47.760><c> are</c><00:13:48.000><c> you</c><00:13:48.480><c> aware</c><00:13:48.880><c> they're</c><00:13:49.120><c> not</c>

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confront? Or are you aware they're not
 

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confront? Or are you aware they're not
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their literacy has been impacted by
 

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their literacy has been impacted by
trauma,<00:13:51.440><c> but</c><00:13:51.680><c> you</c><00:13:51.920><c> haven't</c><00:13:52.240><c> thought</c><00:13:52.480><c> about</c><00:13:52.800><c> to</c>

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trauma, but you haven't thought about to
 

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trauma, but you haven't thought about to
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what degree it's been impacted and
 

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what degree it's been impacted and
what's<00:13:55.120><c> difficult</c><00:13:55.519><c> for</c><00:13:55.760><c> them.</c><00:13:56.160><c> Is</c><00:13:56.320><c> it</c>

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what's difficult for them. Is it
 

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what's difficult for them. Is it
writing?<00:13:57.040><c> Is</c><00:13:57.199><c> it</c><00:13:57.440><c> reading?</c><00:13:58.320><c> Is</c><00:13:58.480><c> it</c><00:13:58.720><c> certain</c>

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writing? Is it reading? Is it certain
 

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writing? Is it reading? Is it certain
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language that's hard? For example, next
 

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language that's hard? For example, next
slide.

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The other thing that's important in
 

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The other thing that's important in
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trauma informed practice is really
 

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trauma informed practice is really
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thinking about how you're going to help
 

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thinking about how you're going to help
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the person share their experiences of
 

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the person share their experiences of
trauma<00:14:15.040><c> in</c><00:14:15.279><c> a</c><00:14:15.440><c> way</c><00:14:15.600><c> that</c><00:14:15.760><c> feels</c><00:14:16.160><c> safe</c><00:14:17.199><c> uh</c><00:14:17.279><c> and</c>

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trauma in a way that feels safe uh and
 

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trauma in a way that feels safe uh and
comfortable<00:14:18.160><c> for</c><00:14:18.399><c> them.</c><00:14:19.199><c> And</c><00:14:19.519><c> the</c><00:14:19.839><c> key</c><00:14:20.160><c> thing</c>

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comfortable for them. And the key thing
 

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comfortable for them. And the key thing
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to that is really being clear about the
 

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to that is really being clear about the
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the the purpose of being uh trauma uh to
 

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the the purpose of being uh trauma uh to
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sharing the trauma and uh what's
 

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sharing the trauma and uh what's
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happened for that person. So uh that
 

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happened for that person. So uh that
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means making sure you don't you don't
 

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means making sure you don't you don't
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have different expectation about what it
 

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have different expectation about what it
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means to share the trauma and that means
 

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means to share the trauma and that means
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thinking about why am I asking those
 

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thinking about why am I asking those
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question is it to understand symptoms is
 

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question is it to understand symptoms is
it<00:14:44.959><c> to</c><00:14:46.079><c> think</c><00:14:46.399><c> about</c><00:14:47.440><c> you</c><00:14:47.680><c> know</c><00:14:48.160><c> what</c><00:14:48.480><c> might</c>

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it to think about you know what might
 

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it to think about you know what might
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impact the experience of the therapy or
 

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impact the experience of the therapy or
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the support that I'm providing like I
 

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the support that I'm providing like I
need<00:14:55.760><c> to</c><00:14:55.920><c> know</c><00:14:56.160><c> that</c><00:14:57.199><c> the</c><00:14:57.839><c> you</c><00:14:58.000><c> know</c><00:14:58.160><c> certain</c>

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need to know that the you know certain
 

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need to know that the you know certain
smells<00:14:58.880><c> or</c><00:14:59.199><c> certain</c><00:14:59.519><c> interactions</c><00:15:00.079><c> are</c>

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smells or certain interactions are
 

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smells or certain interactions are
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really feeling threatening for them, for
 

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really feeling threatening for them, for
example,<00:15:03.440><c> or</c><00:15:03.760><c> is</c><00:15:03.920><c> it</c><00:15:04.160><c> to</c><00:15:04.480><c> help</c><00:15:04.720><c> them</c><00:15:05.040><c> feel</c>

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example, or is it to help them feel
 

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example, or is it to help them feel
seen,<00:15:05.920><c> feel</c><00:15:06.720><c> like</c><00:15:07.040><c> you</c><00:15:08.000><c> um</c><00:15:08.480><c> you</c><00:15:08.720><c> know</c><00:15:08.880><c> what</c>

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seen, feel like you um you know what
 

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seen, feel like you um you know what
they've<00:15:09.360><c> been</c><00:15:09.519><c> through</c><00:15:09.760><c> and</c><00:15:10.000><c> it</c><00:15:10.160><c> helps</c><00:15:10.399><c> you</c>

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they've been through and it helps you
 

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they've been through and it helps you
acknowledge<00:15:11.120><c> their</c><00:15:11.360><c> strength</c><00:15:11.920><c> and</c><00:15:12.399><c> that</c><00:15:12.639><c> you</c>

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acknowledge their strength and that you
 

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acknowledge their strength and that you
can<00:15:13.120><c> and</c><00:15:13.519><c> create</c><00:15:13.920><c> hope</c><00:15:14.320><c> that</c><00:15:14.560><c> we</c><00:15:14.800><c> can</c>

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can and create hope that we can
 

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can and create hope that we can
talk<00:15:16.560><c> about</c><00:15:16.800><c> these</c><00:15:17.120><c> things</c><00:15:17.360><c> and</c><00:15:17.680><c> it's</c><00:15:17.920><c> going</c>

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talk about these things and it's going
 

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talk about these things and it's going
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to be it's not going to destroy you.
 

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to be it's not going to destroy you.
It's<00:15:20.000><c> not</c><00:15:20.160><c> going</c><00:15:20.320><c> to</c><00:15:20.480><c> be</c><00:15:21.120><c> very</c><00:15:21.519><c> difficult</c><00:15:22.079><c> and</c>

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It's not going to be very difficult and
 

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It's not going to be very difficult and
it's<00:15:22.639><c> not</c><00:15:23.040><c> doesn't</c><00:15:23.440><c> have</c><00:15:23.680><c> to</c><00:15:23.839><c> be</c><00:15:24.000><c> a</c><00:15:24.240><c> secret</c><00:15:24.560><c> for</c>

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it's not doesn't have to be a secret for
 

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it's not doesn't have to be a secret for
you.

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you.
 

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you.
Uh<00:15:27.120><c> so</c><00:15:27.519><c> being</c><00:15:27.839><c> very</c><00:15:28.240><c> clear</c><00:15:28.639><c> around</c><00:15:29.920><c> if</c><00:15:30.160><c> I'm</c>

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Uh so being very clear around if I'm
 

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Uh so being very clear around if I'm
asking<00:15:30.800><c> someone</c><00:15:31.040><c> to</c><00:15:31.440><c> share</c><00:15:31.680><c> their</c><00:15:31.920><c> story,</c>

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asking someone to share their story,
 

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asking someone to share their story,
what<00:15:32.560><c> does</c><00:15:32.800><c> that</c><00:15:33.040><c> mean</c><00:15:34.000><c> is</c><00:15:34.320><c> really</c><00:15:34.720><c> really</c>

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what does that mean is really really
 

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what does that mean is really really
important<00:15:36.240><c> to</c><00:15:36.560><c> think</c><00:15:36.800><c> about</c><00:15:37.279><c> and</c><00:15:37.519><c> to</c><00:15:37.760><c> do</c><00:15:37.920><c> that</c>

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important to think about and to do that
 

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important to think about and to do that
with<00:15:38.399><c> a</c><00:15:38.720><c> person</c><00:15:39.040><c> when</c><00:15:39.279><c> you</c><00:15:39.519><c> can</c><00:15:40.079><c> if</c><00:15:40.320><c> they're</c>

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with a person when you can if they're
 

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with a person when you can if they're
not<00:15:40.720><c> feeling</c><00:15:41.040><c> too</c><00:15:41.279><c> overwhelmed.</c><00:15:42.079><c> actually</c>

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not feeling too overwhelmed. actually
 

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not feeling too overwhelmed. actually
saying,<00:15:42.800><c> you</c><00:15:43.040><c> know,</c><00:15:43.760><c> um</c><00:15:44.560><c> uh</c><00:15:44.800><c> for</c><00:15:44.880><c> example,</c><00:15:45.440><c> I'd</c>

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saying, you know, um uh for example, I'd
 

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saying, you know, um uh for example, I'd
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like to hear about uh what happened to
 

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like to hear about uh what happened to
you<00:15:48.480><c> so</c><00:15:48.720><c> I</c><00:15:48.880><c> can</c><00:15:49.040><c> understand</c>

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you so I can understand
 

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you so I can understand
how,<00:15:51.519><c> you</c><00:15:51.600><c> know,</c><00:15:51.759><c> the</c><00:15:52.000><c> lack</c><00:15:52.240><c> of</c><00:15:52.399><c> sleep</c><00:15:52.720><c> and</c><00:15:53.040><c> the</c>

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how, you know, the lack of sleep and the
 

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how, you know, the lack of sleep and the
the<00:15:53.519><c> fear</c><00:15:53.839><c> you've</c><00:15:54.240><c> told</c><00:15:54.399><c> me</c><00:15:54.639><c> about</c><00:15:55.120><c> really</c>

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the fear you've told me about really
 

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the fear you've told me about really
impacts<00:15:55.839><c> on</c><00:15:56.000><c> you,</c><00:15:56.320><c> for</c><00:15:56.399><c> example.</c>

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impacts on you, for example.
 

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impacts on you, for example.
Um<00:15:59.040><c> how</c><00:15:59.360><c> does</c><00:15:59.519><c> that</c><00:15:59.759><c> sound</c><00:16:00.000><c> to</c><00:16:00.160><c> you?</c><00:16:00.480><c> You</c><00:16:00.639><c> know,</c>

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Um how does that sound to you? You know,
 

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Um how does that sound to you? You know,
were<00:16:01.199><c> there</c><00:16:01.360><c> other</c><00:16:01.680><c> times</c><00:16:01.920><c> you</c><00:16:02.160><c> shared</c><00:16:02.399><c> your</c>

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were there other times you shared your
 

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were there other times you shared your
trauma?<00:16:02.959><c> What</c><00:16:03.120><c> was</c><00:16:03.279><c> that</c><00:16:03.440><c> like</c><00:16:03.680><c> for</c><00:16:03.920><c> you?</c>

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trauma? What was that like for you?
 

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trauma? What was that like for you?
Yeah.<00:16:05.920><c> Uh</c><00:16:06.320><c> can</c><00:16:06.560><c> you</c><00:16:06.959><c> go</c><00:16:07.199><c> to</c><00:16:07.360><c> the</c><00:16:07.519><c> next</c><00:16:07.759><c> slide,</c>

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Yeah. Uh can you go to the next slide,
 

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Yeah. Uh can you go to the next slide,
please?

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please?
 

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please?
So<00:16:10.240><c> there</c><00:16:10.480><c> are</c><00:16:10.560><c> some</c><00:16:10.800><c> key</c><00:16:10.959><c> issues</c><00:16:11.360><c> to</c><00:16:11.600><c> disc</c><00:16:12.240><c> to</c>

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So there are some key issues to disc to
 

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So there are some key issues to disc to
consider<00:16:13.199><c> when</c><00:16:13.680><c> you're</c><00:16:14.800><c> uh</c><00:16:15.120><c> talking</c><00:16:15.440><c> about</c>

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consider when you're uh talking about
 

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consider when you're uh talking about
trauma<00:16:16.079><c> with</c><00:16:16.320><c> someone.</c><00:16:17.360><c> One</c><00:16:17.600><c> might</c><00:16:17.920><c> be</c><00:16:18.320><c> you</c>

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trauma with someone. One might be you
 

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trauma with someone. One might be you
know<00:16:19.120><c> how</c><00:16:19.519><c> what</c><00:16:19.839><c> makes</c><00:16:20.000><c> it</c><00:16:20.240><c> safe</c><00:16:20.480><c> for</c><00:16:20.639><c> a</c><00:16:20.800><c> person</c>

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know how what makes it safe for a person
 

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know how what makes it safe for a person
to<00:16:21.279><c> disclose.</c><00:16:22.000><c> So</c><00:16:22.560><c> are</c><00:16:22.800><c> you</c><00:16:22.959><c> in</c><00:16:23.120><c> a</c><00:16:23.360><c> place</c><00:16:23.519><c> where</c>

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to disclose. So are you in a place where
 

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to disclose. So are you in a place where
you<00:16:23.920><c> can</c><00:16:24.560><c> uh</c><00:16:25.600><c> slow</c><00:16:25.920><c> things</c><00:16:26.240><c> down</c><00:16:26.560><c> and</c><00:16:26.800><c> really</c>

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you can uh slow things down and really
 

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you can uh slow things down and really
give<00:16:27.360><c> time</c><00:16:27.600><c> to</c><00:16:27.839><c> people</c><00:16:28.079><c> to</c><00:16:28.320><c> share</c><00:16:28.560><c> their</c>

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give time to people to share their
 

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give time to people to share their
story?<00:16:29.440><c> Do</c><00:16:29.600><c> you</c><00:16:29.759><c> have</c><00:16:29.920><c> the</c><00:16:30.160><c> skills?</c><00:16:30.880><c> Do</c><00:16:31.040><c> you</c>

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story? Do you have the skills? Do you
 

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story? Do you have the skills? Do you
know<00:16:31.279><c> how</c><00:16:31.519><c> to</c><00:16:31.680><c> contain</c><00:16:32.079><c> it</c><00:16:32.480><c> and</c><00:16:32.800><c> to</c><00:16:33.920><c> um</c><00:16:34.639><c> shift</c>

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know how to contain it and to um shift
 

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know how to contain it and to um shift
the<00:16:35.279><c> person</c><00:16:35.519><c> away</c><00:16:35.759><c> from</c><00:16:35.920><c> the</c><00:16:36.160><c> story</c><00:16:36.399><c> if</c><00:16:36.639><c> they</c>

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the person away from the story if they
 

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the person away from the story if they
don't<00:16:36.959><c> feel</c><00:16:37.199><c> safe</c><00:16:37.519><c> telling</c><00:16:37.839><c> you</c><00:16:38.079><c> that</c><00:16:38.560><c> story?</c>

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don't feel safe telling you that story?
 

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don't feel safe telling you that story?
Um,<00:16:40.320><c> and</c><00:16:41.199><c> very</c><00:16:41.519><c> very</c><00:16:41.839><c> importantly,</c><00:16:42.560><c> how</c><00:16:42.720><c> do</c>

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Um, and very very importantly, how do
 

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Um, and very very importantly, how do
you<00:16:43.040><c> make</c><00:16:43.120><c> sure</c><00:16:43.279><c> that</c><00:16:43.519><c> someone</c><00:16:43.759><c> doesn't</c><00:16:44.079><c> have</c>

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you make sure that someone doesn't have
 

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you make sure that someone doesn't have
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to tell their story over and over again?
 

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to tell their story over and over again?
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And that means being very clear about
 

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And that means being very clear about
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how you share information, how you use
 

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how you share information, how you use
information.<00:16:52.240><c> Um,</c><00:16:53.040><c> and</c><00:16:53.279><c> the</c><00:16:53.600><c> person</c><00:16:53.920><c> being</c>

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information. Um, and the person being
 

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information. Um, and the person being
very<00:16:54.480><c> clear</c><00:16:54.800><c> how</c><00:16:55.040><c> you</c><00:16:55.199><c> share</c><00:16:55.600><c> and</c><00:16:56.079><c> and</c><00:16:56.399><c> record</c>

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very clear how you share and and record
 

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very clear how you share and and record
that<00:16:57.279><c> keep</c><00:16:57.519><c> a</c><00:16:57.759><c> record</c><00:16:58.000><c> of</c><00:16:58.160><c> that</c><00:16:58.480><c> information</c>

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that keep a record of that information
 

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that keep a record of that information
as<00:16:59.279><c> well.</c><00:17:00.240><c> some</c><00:17:00.480><c> of</c><00:17:00.560><c> the</c><00:17:00.800><c> tools</c><00:17:01.199><c> that</c><00:17:01.440><c> I</c>

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as well. some of the tools that I
 

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as well. some of the tools that I
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mentioned uh have tools for both um
 

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mentioned uh have tools for both um
workers<00:17:07.439><c> but</c><00:17:07.760><c> also</c><00:17:08.400><c> for</c><00:17:09.039><c> service</c><00:17:09.520><c> users</c>

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workers but also for service users
 

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workers but also for service users
around<00:17:10.480><c> talking</c><00:17:10.799><c> about</c><00:17:11.120><c> trauma.</c><00:17:11.919><c> So</c><00:17:12.160><c> there's</c>

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around talking about trauma. So there's
 

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around talking about trauma. So there's
some<00:17:12.799><c> great</c><00:17:13.120><c> handouts</c><00:17:13.679><c> for</c><00:17:13.760><c> example</c><00:17:14.079><c> that</c><00:17:14.400><c> you</c>

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some great handouts for example that you
 

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some great handouts for example that you
can<00:17:14.720><c> give</c><00:17:15.039><c> someone</c><00:17:16.240><c> before</c><00:17:16.640><c> you</c><00:17:16.880><c> talk</c><00:17:17.120><c> about</c>

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can give someone before you talk about
 

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can give someone before you talk about
trauma<00:17:18.000><c> to</c><00:17:18.240><c> give</c><00:17:18.400><c> them</c><00:17:18.559><c> permission</c><00:17:18.959><c> to</c><00:17:19.199><c> talk</c>

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trauma to give them permission to talk
 

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trauma to give them permission to talk
about<00:17:19.600><c> it</c><00:17:19.839><c> but</c><00:17:20.160><c> also</c><00:17:20.480><c> to</c><00:17:20.880><c> set</c><00:17:21.039><c> up</c>

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about it but also to set up
 

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about it but also to set up
expectations.<00:17:22.319><c> So</c><00:17:22.559><c> you</c><00:17:22.720><c> can</c><00:17:22.880><c> have</c><00:17:23.039><c> a</c><00:17:23.199><c> look</c><00:17:23.280><c> at</c>

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expectations. So you can have a look at
 

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expectations. So you can have a look at
that<00:17:23.600><c> on</c><00:17:23.839><c> the</c><00:17:24.000><c> website</c><00:17:24.400><c> if</c><00:17:24.640><c> you're</c>

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that on the website if you're
 

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that on the website if you're
interested.<00:17:26.079><c> I</c><00:17:26.400><c> think</c><00:17:26.480><c> I've</c><00:17:26.799><c> gone</c><00:17:27.120><c> well</c>

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interested. I think I've gone well
 

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interested. I think I've gone well
almost<00:17:28.000><c> over</c><00:17:28.319><c> time.</c><00:17:28.720><c> So</c><00:17:28.880><c> I'm</c><00:17:29.120><c> going</c><00:17:29.200><c> to</c><00:17:29.360><c> hand</c>

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almost over time. So I'm going to hand
 

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almost over time. So I'm going to hand
over<00:17:30.080><c> now</c><00:17:30.799><c> to</c><00:17:31.039><c> our</c><00:17:31.280><c> next</c><00:17:31.600><c> speaker</c><00:17:32.160><c> which</c><00:17:32.480><c> is</c><00:17:32.960><c> uh</c>

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over now to our next speaker which is uh
 

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over now to our next speaker which is uh
Crisel<00:17:34.160><c> and</c><00:17:34.400><c> she's</c><00:17:34.720><c> going</c><00:17:34.880><c> to</c><00:17:34.960><c> be</c><00:17:35.200><c> talking</c><00:17:35.679><c> to</c>

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Crisel and she's going to be talking to
 

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Crisel and she's going to be talking to
you<00:17:36.480><c> about</c>

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you about
 

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you about
um<00:17:39.440><c> how</c><00:17:39.840><c> across</c><00:17:40.400><c> disciplines</c><00:17:41.280><c> I</c><00:17:41.520><c> might</c><00:17:41.760><c> skip</c>

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um how across disciplines I might skip
 

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um how across disciplines I might skip
that<00:17:42.240><c> slide.</c><00:17:42.640><c> Thanks.</c><00:17:43.440><c> So</c><00:17:44.000><c> across</c>

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that slide. Thanks. So across
 

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that slide. Thanks. So across
disciplines<00:17:45.840><c> uh</c><00:17:46.160><c> how</c><00:17:46.400><c> you</c><00:17:46.640><c> share</c><00:17:47.520><c> trauma</c>

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disciplines uh how you share trauma
 

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disciplines uh how you share trauma
informed<00:17:48.400><c> language</c><00:17:48.720><c> and</c><00:17:49.039><c> how</c><00:17:49.280><c> that</c>

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informed language and how that
 

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informed language and how that
strengthens<00:17:50.240><c> your</c><00:17:50.559><c> practice</c><00:17:50.960><c> and</c><00:17:51.200><c> then</c>

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strengthens your practice and then
 

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strengthens your practice and then
reflective<00:17:52.080><c> practice.</c><00:17:52.960><c> Over</c><00:17:53.280><c> to</c><00:17:53.440><c> you</c>

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reflective practice. Over to you
 

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reflective practice. Over to you
Christoel.

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Christoel.
 

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Christoel.
Thanks<00:17:56.160><c> an</c><00:17:57.360><c> um</c><00:17:58.080><c> yes</c><00:17:58.640><c> so</c><00:17:59.760><c> I</c><00:18:00.080><c> was</c><00:18:00.640><c> involved</c><00:18:01.280><c> in</c>

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Thanks an um yes so I was involved in
 

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Thanks an um yes so I was involved in
the<00:18:02.400><c> in</c><00:18:02.720><c> one</c><00:18:02.880><c> of</c><00:18:02.960><c> the</c><00:18:03.120><c> working</c><00:18:03.440><c> groups</c><00:18:04.080><c> that</c>

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the in one of the working groups that
 

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the in one of the working groups that
was<00:18:05.200><c> consulted</c><00:18:05.600><c> with</c><00:18:05.840><c> for</c><00:18:06.080><c> the</c><00:18:06.320><c> development</c>

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was consulted with for the development
 

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was consulted with for the development
of<00:18:07.200><c> the</c><00:18:07.760><c> suite</c><00:18:08.080><c> of</c><00:18:08.400><c> trauma-informed</c><00:18:09.200><c> practice</c>

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of the suite of trauma-informed practice
 

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of the suite of trauma-informed practice
tools<00:18:10.080><c> that</c><00:18:10.320><c> were</c><00:18:10.640><c> referenced</c><00:18:11.280><c> in</c><00:18:12.080><c> um</c><00:18:12.240><c> in</c><00:18:12.480><c> this</c>

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tools that were referenced in um in this
 

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tools that were referenced in um in this
presentation.

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presentation.
 

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presentation.
Um,<00:18:14.720><c> and</c><00:18:15.280><c> one</c><00:18:15.520><c> of</c><00:18:15.600><c> the</c><00:18:15.840><c> biggest</c><00:18:16.720><c> things</c><00:18:16.960><c> that</c>

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Um, and one of the biggest things that
 

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Um, and one of the biggest things that
struck<00:18:17.679><c> me</c><00:18:17.919><c> about</c><00:18:18.080><c> that</c><00:18:18.320><c> or</c><00:18:18.480><c> what</c><00:18:18.640><c> I</c>

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struck me about that or what I
 

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struck me about that or what I
appreciated<00:18:19.520><c> about</c><00:18:19.840><c> that</c><00:18:20.480><c> um,</c><00:18:20.960><c> about</c><00:18:21.280><c> that</c>

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appreciated about that um, about that
 

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appreciated about that um, about that
project<00:18:22.640><c> was</c><00:18:23.039><c> how</c><00:18:23.280><c> it</c><00:18:23.440><c> consolidated</c><00:18:24.880><c> um,</c><00:18:25.440><c> a</c>

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project was how it consolidated um, a
 

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project was how it consolidated um, a
lot<00:18:25.840><c> of</c><00:18:25.919><c> the</c><00:18:26.080><c> trauma-informed</c><00:18:26.960><c> practice</c>

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lot of the trauma-informed practice
 

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lot of the trauma-informed practice
knowledge<00:18:27.679><c> and</c><00:18:28.000><c> research</c><00:18:28.320><c> that's</c><00:18:28.640><c> in</c><00:18:28.880><c> the</c>

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knowledge and research that's in the
 

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knowledge and research that's in the
space.<00:18:29.440><c> I</c><00:18:29.760><c> think</c><00:18:29.919><c> as</c><00:18:30.320><c> groundworkers,</c><00:18:31.039><c> it</c><00:18:31.280><c> can</c>

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space. I think as groundworkers, it can
 

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space. I think as groundworkers, it can
be<00:18:32.400><c> um,</c><00:18:33.280><c> really</c><00:18:34.559><c> difficult</c><00:18:34.960><c> to</c><00:18:35.280><c> understand</c>

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be um, really difficult to understand
 

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be um, really difficult to understand
what<00:18:36.799><c> trauma-informed</c><00:18:37.600><c> practice</c><00:18:38.240><c> is.</c><00:18:38.960><c> um</c>

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what trauma-informed practice is. um
 

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what trauma-informed practice is. um
there's<00:18:39.360><c> a</c><00:18:39.600><c> lot</c><00:18:39.679><c> out</c><00:18:39.919><c> there</c><00:18:40.240><c> and</c><00:18:40.480><c> so</c><00:18:40.720><c> I</c>

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there's a lot out there and so I
 

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there's a lot out there and so I
appreciated<00:18:41.360><c> the</c><00:18:41.520><c> consolidation</c><00:18:42.080><c> of</c><00:18:42.320><c> this</c><00:18:43.520><c> um</c>

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appreciated the consolidation of this um
 

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appreciated the consolidation of this um
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into language that is accessible and um
 

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into language that is accessible and um
so<00:18:50.240><c> when</c><00:18:50.480><c> I'm</c><00:18:50.720><c> talking</c><00:18:50.960><c> about</c><00:18:51.440><c> shared</c>

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so when I'm talking about shared
 

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so when I'm talking about shared
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language what I'm talking about is a
 

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language what I'm talking about is a
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shared definition and and of an
 

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shared definition and and of an
understanding<00:18:56.880><c> of</c><00:18:57.039><c> what</c><00:18:57.200><c> trauma-informed</c>

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understanding of what trauma-informed
 

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understanding of what trauma-informed
principles<00:18:58.880><c> are</c><00:19:00.160><c> as</c><00:19:00.400><c> well</c><00:19:00.559><c> as</c><00:19:00.799><c> what</c><00:19:01.120><c> that</c>

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principles are as well as what that
 

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principles are as well as what that
looks<00:19:01.679><c> like</c><00:19:02.080><c> in</c><00:19:02.400><c> practice</c><00:19:03.280><c> and</c><00:19:03.520><c> that</c><00:19:03.840><c> when</c>

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looks like in practice and that when
 

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looks like in practice and that when
this<00:19:04.559><c> language</c><00:19:04.960><c> is</c><00:19:05.200><c> created</c><00:19:05.679><c> when</c><00:19:05.919><c> this</c>

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this language is created when this
 

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this language is created when this
knowledge<00:19:06.320><c> is</c><00:19:06.559><c> created</c><00:19:07.120><c> it</c><00:19:07.280><c> is</c><00:19:07.440><c> done</c><00:19:07.600><c> in</c>

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knowledge is created it is done in
 

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knowledge is created it is done in
consultation<00:19:08.559><c> with</c><00:19:09.360><c> everybody</c><00:19:10.080><c> who</c><00:19:10.320><c> is</c><00:19:10.480><c> going</c>

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consultation with everybody who is going
 

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consultation with everybody who is going
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to be using that and yes that is service
 

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to be using that and yes that is service
workers<00:19:14.080><c> and</c><00:19:14.320><c> that</c><00:19:14.559><c> is</c><00:19:14.720><c> also</c><00:19:15.120><c> importantly</c><00:19:15.679><c> and</c>

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workers and that is also importantly and
 

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workers and that is also importantly and
you<00:19:15.919><c> know</c><00:19:16.080><c> and</c><00:19:16.240><c> service</c><00:19:16.480><c> leaders</c><00:19:16.720><c> and</c><00:19:16.960><c> peer</c>

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you know and service leaders and peer
 

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you know and service leaders and peer
workers<00:19:17.520><c> but</c><00:19:17.760><c> importantly</c><00:19:18.240><c> it's</c><00:19:18.480><c> also</c>

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workers but importantly it's also
 

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workers but importantly it's also
consumers<00:19:20.160><c> and</c><00:19:20.400><c> so</c><00:19:21.120><c> that</c><00:19:21.360><c> is</c><00:19:21.520><c> what</c><00:19:21.679><c> I</c><00:19:21.840><c> really</c>

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consumers and so that is what I really
 

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consumers and so that is what I really
appreciate<00:19:22.559><c> about</c><00:19:23.360><c> this</c><00:19:23.760><c> kind</c><00:19:23.919><c> of</c><00:19:24.320><c> shared</c>

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appreciate about this kind of shared
 

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appreciate about this kind of shared
language<00:19:25.200><c> on</c><00:19:25.600><c> trauma-informed</c><00:19:26.400><c> practice</c><00:19:26.720><c> and</c>

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language on trauma-informed practice and
 

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language on trauma-informed practice and
why<00:19:27.280><c> I</c><00:19:27.520><c> wanted</c><00:19:27.760><c> to</c><00:19:27.919><c> speak</c><00:19:28.080><c> on</c><00:19:28.320><c> it</c><00:19:29.039><c> and</c><00:19:29.360><c> I</c><00:19:29.520><c> just</c>

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why I wanted to speak on it and I just
 

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why I wanted to speak on it and I just
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wanted to quickly speak on how it's
 

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wanted to quickly speak on how it's
helpful<00:19:32.240><c> for</c><00:19:32.559><c> three</c><00:19:32.880><c> groups</c><00:19:33.120><c> of</c><00:19:33.280><c> people</c><00:19:33.600><c> I've</c>

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helpful for three groups of people I've
 

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helpful for three groups of people I've
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listed them here um I'll begin with the
 

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listed them here um I'll begin with the
peer<00:19:36.880><c> workers</c><00:19:37.360><c> because</c><00:19:37.600><c> that's</c><00:19:37.840><c> where</c><00:19:38.080><c> my</c>

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peer workers because that's where my
 

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peer workers because that's where my
heart<00:19:38.559><c> lays.</c><00:19:39.679><c> Um</c>

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heart lays. Um
 

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heart lays. Um
so<00:19:43.200><c> you</c><00:19:43.440><c> know</c><00:19:44.240><c> um</c><00:19:45.280><c> for</c><00:19:45.840><c> lived</c><00:19:46.160><c> experience</c>

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so you know um for lived experience
 

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so you know um for lived experience
workers<00:19:48.080><c> um</c><00:19:48.320><c> our</c><00:19:48.640><c> lived</c><00:19:48.960><c> and</c><00:19:49.120><c> living</c>

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workers um our lived and living
 

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workers um our lived and living
expertise<00:19:50.160><c> it</c><00:19:50.400><c> is</c><00:19:50.640><c> hardearned</c><00:19:52.080><c> and</c><00:19:53.039><c> it</c><00:19:53.919><c> um</c>

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expertise it is hardearned and it um
 

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expertise it is hardearned and it um
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allows us to have a really intimate
 

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allows us to have a really intimate
understanding<00:19:58.000><c> of</c><00:19:58.320><c> what</c><00:19:58.720><c> are</c><00:19:58.960><c> the</c><00:19:59.200><c> conditions</c>

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understanding of what are the conditions
 

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understanding of what are the conditions
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needed for healing to happen and you
 

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needed for healing to happen and you
know<00:20:02.720><c> and</c><00:20:02.960><c> within</c><00:20:03.280><c> this</c><00:20:03.440><c> context</c><00:20:03.760><c> within</c>

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know and within this context within
 

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know and within this context within
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services you know for a lot of us we
 

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services you know for a lot of us we
don't<00:20:07.520><c> really</c><00:20:08.000><c> need</c><00:20:08.240><c> to</c><00:20:08.480><c> imagine</c><00:20:09.200><c> We're</c><00:20:09.360><c> the</c>

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don't really need to imagine We're the
 

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don't really need to imagine We're the
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consumer walking through the door. We
 

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consumer walking through the door. We
have<00:20:11.520><c> been</c><00:20:11.679><c> that</c><00:20:11.919><c> consumer.</c><00:20:12.400><c> We</c><00:20:12.559><c> are</c><00:20:12.720><c> that</c>

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have been that consumer. We are that
 

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have been that consumer. We are that
consumer.<00:20:13.360><c> We</c><00:20:13.520><c> will</c><00:20:13.760><c> be</c><00:20:13.840><c> that</c><00:20:14.080><c> consumer.</c><00:20:15.520><c> And</c>

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consumer. We will be that consumer. And
 

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consumer. We will be that consumer. And
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so we have this incredible expertise.
 

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so we have this incredible expertise.
I'm<00:20:18.880><c> not</c><00:20:18.960><c> sure</c><00:20:19.120><c> how</c><00:20:19.200><c> many</c><00:20:19.360><c> pure</c><00:20:19.600><c> workers</c><00:20:19.840><c> are</c>

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I'm not sure how many pure workers are
 

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I'm not sure how many pure workers are
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are here today, but um yeah, we have
 

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are here today, but um yeah, we have
this<00:20:22.720><c> incredible</c><00:20:23.120><c> expertise,</c><00:20:24.400><c> but</c><00:20:24.880><c> it's</c>

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this incredible expertise, but it's
 

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this incredible expertise, but it's
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really important for us to understand
 

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really important for us to understand
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that we are working in a system that has
 

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that we are working in a system that has
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this really dark historical legacy of
 

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this really dark historical legacy of
silencing<00:20:35.440><c> consumer</c><00:20:35.840><c> voices,</c><00:20:36.240><c> of</c><00:20:36.480><c> not</c>

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silencing consumer voices, of not
 

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silencing consumer voices, of not
believing<00:20:36.960><c> our</c><00:20:37.200><c> stories.</c><00:20:37.919><c> And</c><00:20:38.080><c> there</c><00:20:38.320><c> is</c><00:20:38.400><c> an</c>

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believing our stories. And there is an
 

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believing our stories. And there is an
absolute<00:20:39.039><c> hangover</c><00:20:39.520><c> of</c><00:20:39.679><c> that</c><00:20:40.000><c> still</c><00:20:40.320><c> that</c><00:20:40.559><c> we</c>

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absolute hangover of that still that we
 

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absolute hangover of that still that we
are<00:20:40.880><c> transforming</c><00:20:41.440><c> in</c><00:20:41.760><c> the</c><00:20:41.919><c> system</c>

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are transforming in the system
 

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are transforming in the system
currently.<00:20:42.799><c> And</c><00:20:43.760><c> um</c><00:20:44.720><c> and</c><00:20:45.039><c> I</c><00:20:45.280><c> speak</c><00:20:45.520><c> to</c><00:20:45.679><c> this</c>

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currently. And um and I speak to this
 

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currently. And um and I speak to this
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because it is really important for us
 

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because it is really important for us
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for lived experience workers to have
 

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for lived experience workers to have
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language that we can translate our
 

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language that we can translate our
expertise<00:20:55.360><c> and</c><00:20:55.679><c> speak</c><00:20:55.919><c> and</c><00:20:56.400><c> articulated</c><00:20:56.960><c> in</c>

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expertise and speak and articulated in
 

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expertise and speak and articulated in
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the shared language and can be
 

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the shared language and can be
understood<00:20:58.880><c> across</c><00:20:59.280><c> disciplines.</c>

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understood across disciplines.
 

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understood across disciplines.
So<00:21:02.000><c> um</c><00:21:03.280><c> yeah,</c><00:21:03.600><c> I</c><00:21:03.840><c> wanted</c><00:21:04.000><c> to</c><00:21:04.159><c> just</c><00:21:04.400><c> really</c>

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So um yeah, I wanted to just really
 

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So um yeah, I wanted to just really
speak<00:21:04.799><c> to</c><00:21:05.039><c> that.</c><00:21:06.080><c> Um,</c><00:21:07.280><c> I</c><00:21:07.520><c> also</c><00:21:07.760><c> wanted</c><00:21:08.000><c> to</c>

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speak to that. Um, I also wanted to
 

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speak to that. Um, I also wanted to
acknowledge,<00:21:08.880><c> you</c><00:21:09.039><c> know,</c><00:21:09.360><c> um,</c><00:21:09.520><c> the</c><00:21:09.679><c> Brimbank</c>

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acknowledge, you know, um, the Brimbank
 

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acknowledge, you know, um, the Brimbank
Local<00:21:10.720><c> has</c><00:21:11.039><c> been</c><00:21:11.200><c> using</c><00:21:11.360><c> these</c><00:21:11.600><c> tools</c><00:21:11.840><c> for</c><00:21:12.000><c> a</c>

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Local has been using these tools for a
 

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Local has been using these tools for a
while<00:21:12.320><c> and</c><00:21:12.480><c> so</c><00:21:12.640><c> I</c><00:21:12.799><c> want</c><00:21:12.880><c> to</c><00:21:13.039><c> honor</c><00:21:13.440><c> that.</c><00:21:14.159><c> I've</c>

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while and so I want to honor that. I've
 

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while and so I want to honor that. I've
had<00:21:14.799><c> peers</c><00:21:15.520><c> also</c><00:21:16.000><c> reflect</c><00:21:16.400><c> back</c><00:21:16.720><c> that</c><00:21:17.360><c> being</c>

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had peers also reflect back that being
 

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had peers also reflect back that being
able<00:21:18.159><c> to</c><00:21:18.400><c> understand</c><00:21:18.960><c> their</c><00:21:19.280><c> skills</c><00:21:19.520><c> and</c>

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able to understand their skills and
 

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able to understand their skills and
knowledge<00:21:20.000><c> and</c><00:21:20.320><c> practice</c><00:21:20.960><c> within</c><00:21:21.360><c> a</c><00:21:21.600><c> context</c>

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knowledge and practice within a context
 

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knowledge and practice within a context
that<00:21:22.880><c> is</c><00:21:23.120><c> cross</c><00:21:23.520><c> disciplines</c><00:21:24.320><c> has</c><00:21:24.640><c> been</c>

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that is cross disciplines has been
 

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that is cross disciplines has been
really<00:21:24.960><c> affirming</c><00:21:25.440><c> as</c><00:21:25.679><c> well.</c><00:21:26.000><c> So,</c><00:21:27.039><c> um,</c><00:21:27.360><c> just</c>

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really affirming as well. So, um, just
 

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really affirming as well. So, um, just
wanted<00:21:27.840><c> to</c><00:21:28.000><c> mention</c><00:21:28.320><c> that</c><00:21:28.559><c> as</c><00:21:28.880><c> well.</c>

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wanted to mention that as well.
 

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wanted to mention that as well.
So<00:21:31.520><c> uh</c><00:21:31.760><c> for</c><00:21:33.039><c> shared</c><00:21:33.440><c> language</c><00:21:33.760><c> for</c><00:21:34.000><c> clinicians</c>

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So uh for shared language for clinicians
 

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So uh for shared language for clinicians
um<00:21:34.960><c> how</c><00:21:35.120><c> it</c><00:21:35.360><c> can</c><00:21:35.520><c> be</c><00:21:35.760><c> helpful</c><00:21:37.039><c> is</c><00:21:38.080><c> um</c><00:21:38.400><c> you</c><00:21:38.640><c> know</c>

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um how it can be helpful is um you know
 

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um how it can be helpful is um you know
everyone<00:21:39.200><c> who's</c><00:21:39.440><c> here</c><00:21:39.679><c> today</c><00:21:40.240><c> I</c><00:21:40.559><c> trust</c><00:21:40.880><c> that</c>

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everyone who's here today I trust that
 

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everyone who's here today I trust that
we<00:21:41.520><c> all</c><00:21:42.159><c> understand</c><00:21:42.640><c> that</c><00:21:42.960><c> things</c><00:21:43.200><c> need</c><00:21:43.360><c> to</c>

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we all understand that things need to
 

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we all understand that things need to
change<00:21:44.080><c> really</c><00:21:44.480><c> want</c><00:21:44.640><c> to</c><00:21:44.799><c> be</c><00:21:45.039><c> committing</c><00:21:45.919><c> to</c>

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change really want to be committing to
 

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change really want to be committing to
strengthening

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strengthening
 

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strengthening
um<00:21:49.120><c> our</c><00:21:49.440><c> our</c><00:21:50.000><c> practice</c><00:21:50.400><c> to</c><00:21:50.720><c> be</c><00:21:50.960><c> more</c><00:21:51.200><c> trauma</c>

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um our our practice to be more trauma
 

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um our our practice to be more trauma
informed<00:21:51.919><c> more</c><00:21:52.159><c> person</c><00:21:52.559><c> centered</c><00:21:52.960><c> kind</c><00:21:53.280><c> of</c>

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informed more person centered kind of
 

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informed more person centered kind of
and<00:21:55.200><c> um</c><00:21:56.400><c> a</c><00:21:56.640><c> really</c><00:21:56.880><c> good</c><00:21:57.200><c> and</c><00:21:57.440><c> I</c><00:21:57.600><c> think</c><00:21:57.679><c> it's</c><00:21:57.840><c> a</c>

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and um a really good and I think it's a
 

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and um a really good and I think it's a
really<00:21:58.159><c> valid</c><00:21:58.480><c> question</c><00:21:58.640><c> and</c><00:21:58.880><c> a</c><00:21:59.039><c> question</c><00:21:59.200><c> I</c>

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really valid question and a question I
 

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really valid question and a question I
hear<00:21:59.760><c> from</c><00:22:00.000><c> the</c><00:22:00.159><c> clinicians</c><00:22:00.559><c> I</c><00:22:00.799><c> work</c><00:22:00.880><c> with</c><00:22:01.280><c> um</c>

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hear from the clinicians I work with um
 

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hear from the clinicians I work with um
the<00:22:01.520><c> clinicians</c><00:22:01.840><c> I</c><00:22:02.000><c> meet</c><00:22:02.080><c> in</c><00:22:02.240><c> the</c><00:22:02.400><c> sector</c><00:22:03.200><c> is</c><00:22:03.679><c> I</c>

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the clinicians I meet in the sector is I
 

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the clinicians I meet in the sector is I
want<00:22:04.080><c> to</c><00:22:04.240><c> do</c><00:22:04.400><c> this</c><00:22:04.640><c> I</c><00:22:04.880><c> want</c><00:22:04.960><c> to</c><00:22:05.039><c> be</c><00:22:05.200><c> committed</c>

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want to do this I want to be committed
 

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want to do this I want to be committed
how<00:22:06.080><c> do</c><00:22:06.159><c> I</c><00:22:06.400><c> do</c><00:22:06.559><c> this</c><00:22:07.360><c> and</c><00:22:07.600><c> that's</c><00:22:07.840><c> really</c><00:22:08.080><c> valid</c>

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how do I do this and that's really valid
 

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how do I do this and that's really valid
um<00:22:09.120><c> we</c><00:22:09.440><c> need</c><00:22:09.520><c> to</c><00:22:09.760><c> have</c><00:22:10.400><c> answers</c><00:22:11.120><c> as</c><00:22:11.440><c> well</c><00:22:11.679><c> to</c>

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um we need to have answers as well to
 

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um we need to have answers as well to
the<00:22:12.159><c> criticisms</c><00:22:12.720><c> we</c><00:22:13.120><c> are</c><00:22:13.440><c> facing</c><00:22:14.559><c> and</c>

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the criticisms we are facing and
 

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the criticisms we are facing and
language<00:22:15.520><c> is</c><00:22:15.679><c> a</c><00:22:15.840><c> really</c><00:22:16.000><c> good</c><00:22:16.159><c> place</c><00:22:16.400><c> to</c><00:22:16.640><c> start</c>

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language is a really good place to start
 

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language is a really good place to start
um<00:22:18.320><c> you</c><00:22:18.480><c> know</c><00:22:18.799><c> language</c><00:22:19.520><c> a</c><00:22:19.679><c> lot</c><00:22:19.760><c> of</c><00:22:19.840><c> the</c>

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um you know language a lot of the
 

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um you know language a lot of the
language<00:22:20.480><c> a</c><00:22:20.640><c> lot</c><00:22:20.720><c> of</c><00:22:20.799><c> the</c><00:22:20.960><c> knowledge</c>

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language a lot of the knowledge
 

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language a lot of the knowledge
approaches<00:22:21.919><c> to</c><00:22:22.080><c> care</c><00:22:22.400><c> we</c><00:22:22.640><c> have</c><00:22:23.679><c> um</c>

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approaches to care we have um
 

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approaches to care we have um
historically<00:22:25.679><c> traditionally</c>

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historically traditionally
 

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historically traditionally
um<00:22:27.840><c> are</c><00:22:28.080><c> not</c><00:22:28.320><c> neutral</c><00:22:28.640><c> and</c><00:22:28.799><c> are</c><00:22:29.120><c> and</c>

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um are not neutral and are and
 

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um are not neutral and are and
perpetuate<00:22:30.720><c> harm.</c><00:22:31.760><c> And</c><00:22:32.000><c> it's</c><00:22:32.240><c> really</c>

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perpetuate harm. And it's really
 

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perpetuate harm. And it's really
important<00:22:32.880><c> for</c><00:22:33.120><c> us</c><00:22:33.280><c> to</c><00:22:33.520><c> be</c><00:22:34.880><c> um</c><00:22:35.919><c> in</c><00:22:36.640><c> engaging</c><00:22:37.520><c> in</c>

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important for us to be um in engaging in
 

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important for us to be um in engaging in
knowledge<00:22:38.240><c> that</c><00:22:38.400><c> has</c><00:22:38.640><c> been</c><00:22:38.880><c> created</c><00:22:40.240><c> uh</c>

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with<00:22:43.679><c> more</c><00:22:44.960><c> people</c><00:22:46.159><c> all</c><00:22:46.400><c> the</c><00:22:46.640><c> people</c><00:22:46.880><c> that</c><00:22:47.120><c> are</c>

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with more people all the people that are
 

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with more people all the people that are
impacted<00:22:47.679><c> by</c><00:22:47.840><c> it</c><00:22:48.080><c> involved.</c><00:22:49.280><c> So</c><00:22:50.240><c> I</c><00:22:50.559><c> say</c><00:22:50.799><c> that</c>

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impacted by it involved. So I say that
 

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impacted by it involved. So I say that
um<00:22:52.720><c> you</c><00:22:52.960><c> know</c><00:22:53.679><c> opportunities</c><00:22:54.400><c> initiatives</c>

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um you know opportunities initiatives
 

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um you know opportunities initiatives
like<00:22:55.120><c> this</c><00:22:55.520><c> in</c><00:22:55.760><c> which</c><00:22:56.000><c> we</c><00:22:56.320><c> are</c><00:22:56.640><c> defining</c><00:22:57.120><c> what</c>

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like this in which we are defining what
 

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like this in which we are defining what
trauma<00:22:57.760><c> informed</c><00:22:58.080><c> practice</c><00:22:58.400><c> is</c><00:22:58.559><c> and</c><00:22:58.799><c> we're</c>

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trauma informed practice is and we're
 

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trauma informed practice is and we're
explaining<00:22:59.919><c> what</c><00:23:00.159><c> it</c><00:23:00.320><c> can</c><00:23:00.480><c> look</c><00:23:00.640><c> like</c><00:23:01.360><c> and</c>

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explaining what it can look like and
 

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explaining what it can look like and
that<00:23:01.679><c> has</c><00:23:01.840><c> been</c><00:23:02.000><c> agreed</c><00:23:02.320><c> upon</c><00:23:02.799><c> by</c><00:23:03.360><c> and</c><00:23:03.440><c> and</c><00:23:03.760><c> led</c>

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that has been agreed upon by and and led
 

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that has been agreed upon by and and led
by<00:23:04.159><c> consumers</c><00:23:05.039><c> is</c><00:23:05.360><c> a</c><00:23:05.520><c> really</c><00:23:06.480><c> meaningful</c><00:23:07.200><c> way</c>

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by consumers is a really meaningful way
 

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by consumers is a really meaningful way
for<00:23:08.000><c> you</c><00:23:08.240><c> to</c><00:23:08.559><c> commit</c><00:23:08.960><c> to</c><00:23:09.200><c> trauma</c><00:23:09.600><c> reformed</c>

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for you to commit to trauma reformed
 

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for you to commit to trauma reformed
practice.

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practice.
 

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practice.
Um<00:23:12.080><c> I</c><00:23:12.320><c> hope</c><00:23:12.480><c> I</c><00:23:12.640><c> got</c><00:23:12.720><c> my</c><00:23:12.880><c> point</c><00:23:13.120><c> across</c><00:23:13.440><c> there.</c>

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Um I hope I got my point across there.
 

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Um I hope I got my point across there.
Um<00:23:14.799><c> but</c><00:23:15.039><c> I'll</c><00:23:15.280><c> carry</c><00:23:15.520><c> on.</c>

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Um but I'll carry on.
 

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Um but I'll carry on.
And<00:23:17.440><c> then</c><00:23:17.840><c> of</c><00:23:18.080><c> course</c><00:23:18.320><c> for</c><00:23:18.640><c> consumers</c><00:23:19.760><c> um</c>

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And then of course for consumers um
 

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And then of course for consumers um
having

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having
 

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having
um

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um
 

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um
trauma-informed<00:23:25.280><c> practice</c><00:23:26.080><c> and</c><00:23:26.480><c> what</c><00:23:26.799><c> that</c>

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trauma-informed practice and what that
 

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trauma-informed practice and what that
means<00:23:28.000><c> really</c><00:23:28.320><c> clearly</c><00:23:28.720><c> established</c><00:23:29.280><c> and</c>

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means really clearly established and
 

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means really clearly established and
consistent<00:23:30.159><c> across</c><00:23:31.200><c> you</c><00:23:31.360><c> know</c><00:23:31.600><c> services</c>

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consistent across you know services
 

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consistent across you know services
across<00:23:32.640><c> workers</c><00:23:33.120><c> across</c><00:23:33.520><c> disciplines</c>

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across workers across disciplines
 

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across workers across disciplines
enables<00:23:35.120><c> consumers</c><00:23:35.760><c> to</c><00:23:36.000><c> have</c><00:23:36.480><c> really</c><00:23:36.799><c> clear</c>

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enables consumers to have really clear
 

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enables consumers to have really clear
understanding<00:23:37.760><c> of</c><00:23:38.000><c> what</c><00:23:38.159><c> it</c><00:23:38.320><c> is.</c><00:23:38.559><c> It's</c><00:23:38.799><c> not</c>

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understanding of what it is. It's not
 

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understanding of what it is. It's not
abstract.<00:23:39.440><c> It</c><00:23:39.679><c> doesn't</c><00:23:39.919><c> vary</c><00:23:41.039><c> um</c><00:23:42.159><c> you</c><00:23:42.320><c> know</c>

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abstract. It doesn't vary um you know
 

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abstract. It doesn't vary um you know
principle-wise

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principle-wise
 

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principle-wise
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and thus have clear expectations for
 

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and thus have clear expectations for
what<00:23:47.840><c> they</c><00:23:48.400><c> for</c><00:23:48.640><c> the</c><00:23:48.880><c> services</c>

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what they for the services
 

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what they for the services
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what they can expect from services and
 

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what they can expect from services and
then<00:23:53.760><c> also</c><00:23:54.159><c> really</c><00:23:54.480><c> be</c><00:23:54.720><c> able</c><00:23:54.960><c> to</c><00:23:55.120><c> make</c><00:23:55.360><c> sense</c>

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then also really be able to make sense
 

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then also really be able to make sense
of<00:23:57.919><c> their</c><00:23:58.320><c> experiences</c><00:23:58.960><c> within</c><00:23:59.280><c> a</c><00:23:59.520><c> service</c>

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of their experiences within a service
 

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of their experiences within a service
and<00:24:00.960><c> articulate</c>

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and articulate
 

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and articulate
how<00:24:03.200><c> they're</c><00:24:03.520><c> understanding</c><00:24:04.480><c> their</c>

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how they're understanding their
 

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how they're understanding their
experiences<00:24:05.360><c> to</c><00:24:05.679><c> workers</c><00:24:06.000><c> in</c><00:24:06.159><c> a</c><00:24:06.320><c> way</c><00:24:06.480><c> that</c>

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experiences to workers in a way that
 

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experiences to workers in a way that
will<00:24:06.960><c> be</c><00:24:07.120><c> understood.</c><00:24:08.159><c> Essentially,</c><00:24:08.640><c> it's</c>

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will be understood. Essentially, it's
 

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will be understood. Essentially, it's
really<00:24:09.120><c> helpful</c><00:24:09.360><c> for</c><00:24:10.000><c> uh</c><00:24:10.240><c> self-</c><00:24:10.480><c> advocacy</c><00:24:11.039><c> for</c>

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really helpful for uh self- advocacy for
 

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really helpful for uh self- advocacy for
consumers<00:24:11.840><c> is</c><00:24:12.080><c> what</c><00:24:12.240><c> I'm</c><00:24:12.480><c> saying.</c>

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consumers is what I'm saying.
 

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consumers is what I'm saying.
Um,<00:24:14.480><c> next</c><00:24:14.960><c> slide,</c><00:24:15.360><c> please.</c><00:24:15.600><c> Akin,</c>

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Um, next slide, please. Akin,
 

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Um, next slide, please. Akin,
so<00:24:18.000><c> I'm</c><00:24:18.320><c> also</c><00:24:18.480><c> going</c><00:24:18.640><c> to</c><00:24:18.720><c> touch</c><00:24:19.039><c> briefly</c><00:24:19.600><c> on</c><00:24:20.480><c> um</c>

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so I'm also going to touch briefly on um
 

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so I'm also going to touch briefly on um
reflective<00:24:21.360><c> practice.</c><00:24:22.000><c> Um,</c><00:24:23.360><c> you</c><00:24:23.600><c> know,</c><00:24:25.039><c> it's</c>

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reflective practice. Um, you know, it's
 

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reflective practice. Um, you know, it's
just<00:24:25.760><c> essential</c><00:24:26.320><c> if</c><00:24:26.640><c> we</c><00:24:26.799><c> want</c><00:24:26.960><c> to</c><00:24:27.120><c> be</c><00:24:27.840><c> um</c><00:24:29.039><c> if</c><00:24:29.279><c> we</c>

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just essential if we want to be um if we
 

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just essential if we want to be um if we
really<00:24:29.840><c> want</c><00:24:30.080><c> to</c><00:24:30.320><c> be</c><00:24:30.880><c> committed</c><00:24:31.200><c> to</c>

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really want to be committed to
 

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really want to be committed to
trauma-informed<00:24:32.240><c> practice,</c><00:24:32.640><c> we</c><00:24:32.880><c> need</c><00:24:33.279><c> it</c><00:24:33.440><c> is</c>

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trauma-informed practice, we need it is
 

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trauma-informed practice, we need it is
a<00:24:33.760><c> necessary</c><00:24:34.240><c> commitment</c><00:24:34.720><c> to</c><00:24:34.960><c> reflective</c>

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a necessary commitment to reflective
 

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a necessary commitment to reflective
practice.<00:24:36.559><c> We</c><00:24:36.880><c> are</c><00:24:37.039><c> all</c><00:24:37.840><c> human</c><00:24:38.240><c> beings</c><00:24:38.799><c> with</c>

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practice. We are all human beings with
 

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practice. We are all human beings with
world<00:24:40.080><c> views</c><00:24:41.279><c> and</c><00:24:41.600><c> that</c><00:24:42.000><c> impacts</c><00:24:42.880><c> how</c><00:24:43.039><c> we</c><00:24:43.279><c> show</c>

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world views and that impacts how we show
 

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world views and that impacts how we show
up<00:24:43.520><c> in</c><00:24:43.760><c> spaces</c><00:24:44.400><c> and</c><00:24:44.720><c> how</c><00:24:44.880><c> we</c><00:24:45.120><c> understand</c><00:24:45.520><c> each</c>

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up in spaces and how we understand each
 

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up in spaces and how we understand each
other<00:24:46.559><c> and</c><00:24:46.880><c> it</c><00:24:47.120><c> is</c><00:24:47.279><c> a</c><00:24:47.440><c> responsibility</c><00:24:48.400><c> for</c><00:24:48.640><c> us</c>

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other and it is a responsibility for us
 

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other and it is a responsibility for us
to<00:24:49.120><c> consider</c><00:24:49.440><c> that</c><00:24:49.600><c> and</c><00:24:49.840><c> to</c><00:24:50.000><c> consider</c><00:24:50.400><c> how</c><00:24:51.440><c> um</c>

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to consider that and to consider how um
 

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to consider that and to consider how um
that's<00:24:52.159><c> showing</c><00:24:52.400><c> up</c><00:24:52.559><c> in</c><00:24:52.720><c> our</c><00:24:52.960><c> practice.</c><00:24:54.240><c> Uh</c><00:24:54.880><c> I</c>

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that's showing up in our practice. Uh I
 

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that's showing up in our practice. Uh I
feel<00:24:55.279><c> like</c><00:24:55.440><c> we</c><00:24:55.679><c> all</c><00:24:55.840><c> know</c><00:24:56.000><c> that</c><00:24:56.320><c> and</c><00:24:56.720><c> really</c>

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feel like we all know that and really
 

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feel like we all know that and really
it's<00:24:58.159><c> um</c><00:24:59.279><c> more</c><00:24:59.679><c> a</c><00:24:59.919><c> question</c><00:25:00.080><c> of</c><00:25:00.320><c> how</c><00:25:00.480><c> do</c><00:25:00.559><c> we</c><00:25:00.720><c> do</c>

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it's um more a question of how do we do
 

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it's um more a question of how do we do
reflective<00:25:01.360><c> practice</c><00:25:01.840><c> when</c><00:25:02.720><c> we</c><00:25:02.960><c> are</c><00:25:03.279><c> so</c><00:25:03.600><c> time</c>

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reflective practice when we are so time
 

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reflective practice when we are so time
poor<00:25:04.159><c> have</c><00:25:04.320><c> so</c><00:25:04.480><c> many</c><00:25:04.640><c> competing</c><00:25:05.039><c> demands</c><00:25:05.440><c> and</c>

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poor have so many competing demands and
 

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poor have so many competing demands and
priorities.<00:25:06.720><c> But</c><00:25:06.880><c> I</c><00:25:07.120><c> just</c><00:25:07.279><c> wanted</c><00:25:07.440><c> to</c>

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priorities. But I just wanted to
 

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priorities. But I just wanted to
reiterate<00:25:08.000><c> that</c><00:25:08.240><c> and</c><00:25:08.480><c> maybe</c><00:25:08.720><c> really</c><00:25:09.039><c> speak</c><00:25:09.279><c> to</c>

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reiterate that and maybe really speak to
 

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reiterate that and maybe really speak to
if<00:25:09.840><c> any</c><00:25:10.080><c> leaders</c><00:25:10.480><c> or</c><00:25:10.720><c> any</c><00:25:11.279><c> people</c><00:25:11.520><c> who</c><00:25:11.760><c> are</c>

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if any leaders or any people who are
 

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if any leaders or any people who are
able<00:25:12.240><c> to</c><00:25:12.880><c> influence</c><00:25:13.520><c> culture</c><00:25:13.919><c> and</c>

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able to influence culture and
 

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able to influence culture and
organizational<00:25:14.960><c> structures</c><00:25:15.760><c> that</c><00:25:16.080><c> if</c><00:25:16.320><c> your</c>

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organizational structures that if your
 

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organizational structures that if your
service<00:25:17.279><c> if</c><00:25:17.440><c> your</c><00:25:17.679><c> organization</c><00:25:18.320><c> says</c><00:25:18.880><c> that</c>

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service if your organization says that
 

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service if your organization says that
they<00:25:19.279><c> are</c><00:25:19.440><c> committed</c><00:25:19.679><c> to</c><00:25:19.760><c> trauma</c><00:25:20.080><c> reform</c>

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they are committed to trauma reform
 

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they are committed to trauma reform
practice<00:25:20.799><c> then</c><00:25:21.039><c> they</c><00:25:21.279><c> need</c><00:25:21.440><c> to</c><00:25:21.679><c> be</c><00:25:22.000><c> committing</c>

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practice then they need to be committing
 

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practice then they need to be committing
to<00:25:22.640><c> supporting</c><00:25:22.960><c> their</c><00:25:23.200><c> workers</c><00:25:24.000><c> to</c><00:25:24.240><c> have</c>

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to supporting their workers to have
 

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to supporting their workers to have
meaningful<00:25:25.039><c> reflective</c><00:25:25.520><c> practice</c><00:25:26.240><c> spaces.</c>

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meaningful reflective practice spaces.
 

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meaningful reflective practice spaces.
Um

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Um
 

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Um
next<00:25:29.600><c> slide</c><00:25:30.000><c> please.</c><00:25:30.559><c> akin.</c>

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next slide please. akin.
 

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next slide please. akin.
But<00:25:34.799><c> um</c><00:25:35.520><c> we</c><00:25:35.840><c> all</c><00:25:36.559><c> do</c><00:25:36.799><c> have</c><00:25:36.960><c> a</c><00:25:37.120><c> part</c><00:25:37.360><c> to</c><00:25:37.600><c> play</c><00:25:38.080><c> in</c>

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But um we all do have a part to play in
 

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But um we all do have a part to play in
reflective<00:25:39.279><c> practice</c><00:25:40.000><c> and</c><00:25:40.480><c> I</c><00:25:40.720><c> guess</c><00:25:40.880><c> I'll</c>

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reflective practice and I guess I'll
 

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reflective practice and I guess I'll
speak<00:25:41.760><c> briefly</c><00:25:42.240><c> on</c><00:25:43.039><c> what</c><00:25:43.279><c> it</c><00:25:43.520><c> can</c><00:25:43.600><c> look</c><00:25:43.760><c> like</c>

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speak briefly on what it can look like
 

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speak briefly on what it can look like
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as as the ground workers. Um I know that
 

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as as the ground workers. Um I know that
it<00:25:48.960><c> can</c><00:25:49.120><c> be</c><00:25:49.279><c> really</c><00:25:49.600><c> difficult</c><00:25:50.960><c> um</c><00:25:51.440><c> especially</c>

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it can be really difficult um especially
 

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it can be really difficult um especially
if<00:25:52.400><c> yeah</c><00:25:52.640><c> we</c><00:25:52.960><c> don't</c><00:25:53.120><c> have</c><00:25:53.200><c> those</c><00:25:53.440><c> designated</c>

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if yeah we don't have those designated
 

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if yeah we don't have those designated
spaces<00:25:54.880><c> and</c><00:25:55.279><c> I</c><00:25:55.600><c> just</c><00:25:55.760><c> want</c><00:25:55.919><c> to</c><00:25:56.080><c> encourage</c>

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spaces and I just want to encourage
 

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spaces and I just want to encourage
people<00:25:57.679><c> to</c><00:25:58.000><c> be</c><00:25:58.799><c> creative</c><00:25:59.360><c> and</c><00:25:59.760><c> creative</c><00:26:00.240><c> about</c>

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people to be creative and creative about
 

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people to be creative and creative about
what<00:26:01.679><c> where</c><00:26:02.320><c> moments</c><00:26:02.720><c> of</c><00:26:02.960><c> reflection</c><00:26:03.360><c> can</c>

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what where moments of reflection can
 

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what where moments of reflection can
happen<00:26:03.840><c> in</c><00:26:04.080><c> their</c><00:26:04.240><c> day.</c><00:26:05.120><c> Um</c><00:26:05.679><c> and</c><00:26:06.880><c> I</c><00:26:07.200><c> say</c><00:26:07.440><c> this</c>

00:26:08.470 --> 00:26:08.480 align:start position:0%
happen in their day. Um and I say this
 

00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:10.070 align:start position:0%
happen in their day. Um and I say this
both<00:26:08.799><c> because</c><00:26:09.039><c> it's</c><00:26:09.279><c> important</c><00:26:09.600><c> for</c><00:26:09.840><c> our</c>

00:26:10.070 --> 00:26:10.080 align:start position:0%
both because it's important for our
 

00:26:10.080 --> 00:26:11.669 align:start position:0%
both because it's important for our
practice<00:26:10.480><c> but</c><00:26:10.720><c> also</c><00:26:10.960><c> because</c><00:26:11.200><c> it's</c><00:26:11.440><c> important</c>

00:26:11.669 --> 00:26:11.679 align:start position:0%
practice but also because it's important
 

00:26:11.679 --> 00:26:14.950 align:start position:0%
practice but also because it's important
for<00:26:11.840><c> our</c><00:26:12.000><c> well-being.</c><00:26:12.720><c> We</c><00:26:13.039><c> need</c><00:26:13.120><c> to</c><00:26:13.360><c> be</c><00:26:14.640><c> we</c>

00:26:14.950 --> 00:26:14.960 align:start position:0%
for our well-being. We need to be we
 

00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:16.549 align:start position:0%
for our well-being. We need to be we
need<00:26:15.039><c> to</c><00:26:15.200><c> be</c><00:26:15.360><c> reflecting</c><00:26:15.840><c> to</c><00:26:16.000><c> be</c><00:26:16.159><c> able</c><00:26:16.320><c> to</c>

00:26:16.549 --> 00:26:16.559 align:start position:0%
need to be reflecting to be able to
 

00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:20.870 align:start position:0%
need to be reflecting to be able to
digest<00:26:18.000><c> um</c><00:26:19.200><c> the</c><00:26:19.520><c> activations,</c><00:26:20.240><c> the</c><00:26:20.400><c> tensions,</c>

00:26:20.870 --> 00:26:20.880 align:start position:0%
digest um the activations, the tensions,
 

00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:22.710 align:start position:0%
digest um the activations, the tensions,
the<00:26:21.120><c> many</c><00:26:21.360><c> the</c><00:26:21.679><c> myat</c><00:26:22.080><c> of</c><00:26:22.240><c> things</c><00:26:22.400><c> that</c><00:26:22.559><c> are</c>

00:26:22.710 --> 00:26:22.720 align:start position:0%
the many the myat of things that are
 

00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:25.269 align:start position:0%
the many the myat of things that are
happening<00:26:23.279><c> in</c><00:26:23.520><c> our</c><00:26:23.760><c> day-to-day</c><00:26:24.400><c> as</c><00:26:24.640><c> we</c><00:26:24.799><c> do</c><00:26:24.960><c> our</c>

00:26:25.269 --> 00:26:25.279 align:start position:0%
happening in our day-to-day as we do our
 

00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:29.990 align:start position:0%
happening in our day-to-day as we do our
really<00:26:25.600><c> important</c><00:26:26.000><c> work.</c><00:26:26.880><c> Um,</c><00:26:28.320><c> and</c>

00:26:29.990 --> 00:26:30.000 align:start position:0%
really important work. Um, and
 

00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:31.590 align:start position:0%
really important work. Um, and
so

00:26:31.590 --> 00:26:31.600 align:start position:0%
so
 

00:26:31.600 --> 00:26:33.029 align:start position:0%
so
I'm<00:26:31.840><c> not</c><00:26:32.000><c> sure</c><00:26:32.080><c> how</c><00:26:32.240><c> we're</c><00:26:32.400><c> going</c><00:26:32.559><c> for</c><00:26:32.799><c> time,</c>

00:26:33.029 --> 00:26:33.039 align:start position:0%
I'm not sure how we're going for time,
 

00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:35.990 align:start position:0%
I'm not sure how we're going for time,
but<00:26:33.279><c> I</c><00:26:33.440><c> might</c><00:26:33.679><c> just</c><00:26:34.720><c> say</c><00:26:35.039><c> like,</c><00:26:35.600><c> you</c><00:26:35.679><c> know,</c><00:26:35.760><c> if</c>

00:26:35.990 --> 00:26:36.000 align:start position:0%
but I might just say like, you know, if
 

00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:39.029 align:start position:0%
but I might just say like, you know, if
we're<00:26:36.240><c> being</c><00:26:36.559><c> curious</c><00:26:37.200><c> or</c><00:26:37.679><c> creative</c><00:26:38.159><c> about</c>

00:26:39.029 --> 00:26:39.039 align:start position:0%
we're being curious or creative about
 

00:26:39.039 --> 00:26:42.390 align:start position:0%
we're being curious or creative about
reflective<00:26:39.679><c> moments</c><00:26:40.080><c> in</c><00:26:40.320><c> our</c><00:26:40.720><c> in</c><00:26:40.960><c> our</c><00:26:41.200><c> work,</c>

00:26:42.390 --> 00:26:42.400 align:start position:0%
reflective moments in our in our work,
 

00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:46.230 align:start position:0%
reflective moments in our in our work,
um,<00:26:43.520><c> you</c><00:26:43.760><c> know,</c><00:26:43.919><c> it</c><00:26:44.240><c> could</c><00:26:44.480><c> look</c><00:26:44.720><c> like</c>

00:26:46.230 --> 00:26:46.240 align:start position:0%
um, you know, it could look like
 

00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:48.710 align:start position:0%
um, you know, it could look like
time<00:26:46.559><c> blocking</c><00:26:47.520><c> some</c><00:26:47.760><c> of</c><00:26:47.919><c> that</c><00:26:48.159><c> time</c><00:26:48.320><c> in</c><00:26:48.559><c> your</c>

00:26:48.710 --> 00:26:48.720 align:start position:0%
time blocking some of that time in your
 

00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:50.390 align:start position:0%
time blocking some of that time in your
supervision.

00:26:50.390 --> 00:26:50.400 align:start position:0%
supervision.
 

00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:54.789 align:start position:0%
supervision.
Um,<00:26:51.120><c> and</c><00:26:52.159><c> for</c><00:26:52.400><c> for</c><00:26:52.640><c> reflective</c><00:26:53.200><c> practice,</c><00:26:53.840><c> for</c>

00:26:54.789 --> 00:26:54.799 align:start position:0%
Um, and for for reflective practice, for
 

00:26:54.799 --> 00:26:57.110 align:start position:0%
Um, and for for reflective practice, for
you<00:26:54.960><c> know,</c><00:26:55.679><c> attention</c><00:26:56.159><c> you</c><00:26:56.400><c> might</c><00:26:56.559><c> be</c><00:26:56.720><c> having</c>

00:26:57.110 --> 00:26:57.120 align:start position:0%
you know, attention you might be having
 

00:26:57.120 --> 00:26:59.750 align:start position:0%
you know, attention you might be having
in<00:26:57.440><c> your</c><00:26:57.600><c> work</c><00:26:58.080><c> and</c><00:26:58.480><c> really</c><00:26:58.960><c> just</c><00:26:59.440><c> letting</c>

00:26:59.750 --> 00:26:59.760 align:start position:0%
in your work and really just letting
 

00:26:59.760 --> 00:27:00.950 align:start position:0%
in your work and really just letting
yourself<00:27:00.080><c> chew</c><00:27:00.320><c> on</c><00:27:00.480><c> that</c><00:27:00.640><c> with</c><00:27:00.799><c> your</c>

00:27:00.950 --> 00:27:00.960 align:start position:0%
yourself chew on that with your
 

00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:03.909 align:start position:0%
yourself chew on that with your
supervisor<00:27:01.840><c> for</c><00:27:02.159><c> 15</c><00:27:02.559><c> minutes.</c><00:27:03.039><c> You</c><00:27:03.200><c> know,</c><00:27:03.679><c> not</c>

00:27:03.909 --> 00:27:03.919 align:start position:0%
supervisor for 15 minutes. You know, not
 

00:27:03.919 --> 00:27:06.070 align:start position:0%
supervisor for 15 minutes. You know, not
problem<00:27:04.320><c> solving,</c><00:27:05.039><c> really</c><00:27:05.360><c> being</c><00:27:05.600><c> like,</c><00:27:05.840><c> what</c>

00:27:06.070 --> 00:27:06.080 align:start position:0%
problem solving, really being like, what
 

00:27:06.080 --> 00:27:10.549 align:start position:0%
problem solving, really being like, what
is<00:27:07.039><c> what</c><00:27:07.360><c> is</c><00:27:07.520><c> coming</c><00:27:07.760><c> up</c><00:27:07.919><c> here?</c><00:27:08.960><c> Um,</c><00:27:10.159><c> it</c><00:27:10.400><c> could</c>

00:27:10.549 --> 00:27:10.559 align:start position:0%
is what is coming up here? Um, it could
 

00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:12.870 align:start position:0%
is what is coming up here? Um, it could
also<00:27:10.880><c> look</c><00:27:11.039><c> like</c><00:27:11.360><c> I'm</c><00:27:11.520><c> sure</c><00:27:11.840><c> many</c><00:27:12.080><c> of</c><00:27:12.240><c> us</c><00:27:12.559><c> have</c>

00:27:12.870 --> 00:27:12.880 align:start position:0%
also look like I'm sure many of us have
 

00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:15.269 align:start position:0%
also look like I'm sure many of us have
those<00:27:13.200><c> really</c><00:27:13.520><c> special</c><00:27:13.919><c> colleagues</c><00:27:14.400><c> that</c><00:27:14.640><c> we</c>

00:27:15.269 --> 00:27:15.279 align:start position:0%
those really special colleagues that we
 

00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:17.430 align:start position:0%
those really special colleagues that we
will<00:27:15.600><c> check</c><00:27:15.840><c> in</c><00:27:16.000><c> with</c><00:27:16.240><c> throughout</c><00:27:16.559><c> our</c><00:27:16.799><c> days,</c>

00:27:17.430 --> 00:27:17.440 align:start position:0%
will check in with throughout our days,
 

00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:20.630 align:start position:0%
will check in with throughout our days,
you<00:27:17.679><c> know,</c><00:27:18.000><c> just</c><00:27:18.240><c> to</c><00:27:19.679><c> um</c><00:27:19.919><c> maybe</c><00:27:20.159><c> after</c><00:27:20.480><c> an</c>

00:27:20.630 --> 00:27:20.640 align:start position:0%
you know, just to um maybe after an
 

00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:22.390 align:start position:0%
you know, just to um maybe after an
intense<00:27:21.039><c> session</c><00:27:21.360><c> we</c><00:27:21.520><c> might</c><00:27:21.679><c> go</c><00:27:21.760><c> to</c><00:27:21.919><c> them</c><00:27:22.159><c> and</c>

00:27:22.390 --> 00:27:22.400 align:start position:0%
intense session we might go to them and
 

00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:24.549 align:start position:0%
intense session we might go to them and
just<00:27:22.559><c> be</c><00:27:22.720><c> like</c>

00:27:24.549 --> 00:27:24.559 align:start position:0%
just be like
 

00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:28.950 align:start position:0%
just be like
that<00:27:24.720><c> was</c><00:27:25.120><c> really</c><00:27:25.440><c> intense.</c><00:27:26.880><c> and</c><00:27:28.080><c> you</c><00:27:28.240><c> know</c>

00:27:28.950 --> 00:27:28.960 align:start position:0%
that was really intense. and you know
 

00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:31.990 align:start position:0%
that was really intense. and you know
maybe<00:27:29.840><c> thinking</c><00:27:30.240><c> about</c><00:27:30.559><c> how</c><00:27:31.440><c> in</c><00:27:31.760><c> those</c>

00:27:31.990 --> 00:27:32.000 align:start position:0%
maybe thinking about how in those
 

00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:34.710 align:start position:0%
maybe thinking about how in those
moments<00:27:32.799><c> could</c><00:27:33.039><c> we</c><00:27:33.679><c> bring</c><00:27:33.840><c> an</c><00:27:34.080><c> intention</c><00:27:34.480><c> of</c>

00:27:34.710 --> 00:27:34.720 align:start position:0%
moments could we bring an intention of
 

00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:38.950 align:start position:0%
moments could we bring an intention of
reflection<00:27:35.600><c> to</c><00:27:35.840><c> those</c><00:27:36.559><c> you</c><00:27:36.799><c> know</c><00:27:37.600><c> um</c><00:27:38.720><c> just</c>

00:27:38.950 --> 00:27:38.960 align:start position:0%
reflection to those you know um just
 

00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:42.789 align:start position:0%
reflection to those you know um just
some<00:27:39.120><c> ideas</c><00:27:39.440><c> I</c><00:27:39.760><c> have</c><00:27:40.720><c> but</c><00:27:41.360><c> that's</c><00:27:41.679><c> that's</c><00:27:42.080><c> me</c>

00:27:42.789 --> 00:27:42.799 align:start position:0%
some ideas I have but that's that's me
 

00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:46.310 align:start position:0%
some ideas I have but that's that's me
and<00:27:43.039><c> I'll</c><00:27:43.279><c> bring</c><00:27:43.440><c> it</c><00:27:43.600><c> now</c><00:27:43.840><c> to</c><00:27:44.320><c> Ro</c><00:27:45.039><c> to</c><00:27:45.279><c> speak</c><00:27:45.520><c> on</c>

00:27:46.310 --> 00:27:46.320 align:start position:0%
and I'll bring it now to Ro to speak on
 

00:27:46.320 --> 00:27:49.350 align:start position:0%
and I'll bring it now to Ro to speak on
um<00:27:46.720><c> risk</c><00:27:47.120><c> management.</c>

00:27:49.350 --> 00:27:49.360 align:start position:0%
um risk management.
 

00:27:49.360 --> 00:27:51.430 align:start position:0%
um risk management.
Thank<00:27:49.760><c> thanks</c><00:27:50.159><c> so</c><00:27:50.400><c> much</c><00:27:50.720><c> really</c><00:27:51.120><c> important</c>

00:27:51.430 --> 00:27:51.440 align:start position:0%
Thank thanks so much really important
 

00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:55.029 align:start position:0%
Thank thanks so much really important
points<00:27:51.760><c> throughout.</c><00:27:52.799><c> Um,</c><00:27:53.600><c> so</c><00:27:53.840><c> look,</c><00:27:54.399><c> I'm</c><00:27:54.640><c> I'm</c>

00:27:55.029 --> 00:27:55.039 align:start position:0%
points throughout. Um, so look, I'm I'm
 

00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:57.190 align:start position:0%
points throughout. Um, so look, I'm I'm
due<00:27:55.279><c> to</c><00:27:55.440><c> speak</c><00:27:55.679><c> about</c><00:27:56.000><c> trauma-informed</c><00:27:56.880><c> risk</c>

00:27:57.190 --> 00:27:57.200 align:start position:0%
due to speak about trauma-informed risk
 

00:27:57.200 --> 00:27:59.590 align:start position:0%
due to speak about trauma-informed risk
management.<00:27:57.919><c> And</c><00:27:58.480><c> this</c><00:27:58.720><c> is</c><00:27:58.880><c> always</c><00:27:59.279><c> one</c><00:27:59.520><c> of</c>

00:27:59.590 --> 00:27:59.600 align:start position:0%
management. And this is always one of
 

00:27:59.600 --> 00:28:02.710 align:start position:0%
management. And this is always one of
those<00:28:00.159><c> um,</c><00:28:01.279><c> you</c><00:28:01.440><c> know,</c><00:28:01.600><c> trick</c><00:28:01.919><c> tricky</c><00:28:02.320><c> spaces</c>

00:28:02.710 --> 00:28:02.720 align:start position:0%
those um, you know, trick tricky spaces
 

00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:05.029 align:start position:0%
those um, you know, trick tricky spaces
where<00:28:02.960><c> we</c><00:28:03.120><c> do</c><00:28:03.279><c> run</c><00:28:03.520><c> into</c><00:28:03.760><c> a</c><00:28:03.919><c> a</c><00:28:04.240><c> real</c><00:28:04.559><c> tension</c>

00:28:05.029 --> 00:28:05.039 align:start position:0%
where we do run into a a real tension
 

00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:07.830 align:start position:0%
where we do run into a a real tension
between<00:28:05.440><c> two</c><00:28:06.399><c> uh,</c><00:28:06.559><c> sometimes</c><00:28:07.039><c> competing</c>

00:28:07.830 --> 00:28:07.840 align:start position:0%
between two uh, sometimes competing
 

00:28:07.840 --> 00:28:10.070 align:start position:0%
between two uh, sometimes competing
concepts.<00:28:08.720><c> Uh,</c><00:28:08.960><c> so</c><00:28:09.120><c> duty</c><00:28:09.360><c> of</c><00:28:09.520><c> care</c><00:28:09.679><c> in</c><00:28:09.919><c> this</c>

00:28:10.070 --> 00:28:10.080 align:start position:0%
concepts. Uh, so duty of care in this
 

00:28:10.080 --> 00:28:13.029 align:start position:0%
concepts. Uh, so duty of care in this
instance<00:28:10.640><c> really</c><00:28:10.960><c> refers</c><00:28:11.360><c> to</c><00:28:12.399><c> uh,</c><00:28:12.559><c> our</c><00:28:12.799><c> duty</c>

00:28:13.029 --> 00:28:13.039 align:start position:0%
instance really refers to uh, our duty
 

00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:17.029 align:start position:0%
instance really refers to uh, our duty
as<00:28:13.279><c> providers</c><00:28:13.840><c> to</c><00:28:14.399><c> maximize</c><00:28:14.960><c> harm</c><00:28:15.440><c> and</c><00:28:16.159><c> um,</c><00:28:16.559><c> so</c>

00:28:17.029 --> 00:28:17.039 align:start position:0%
as providers to maximize harm and um, so
 

00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:20.870 align:start position:0%
as providers to maximize harm and um, so
minimize<00:28:17.600><c> harm</c><00:28:18.000><c> and</c><00:28:18.320><c> maximize</c><00:28:18.880><c> safety.</c><00:28:20.000><c> Um</c>

00:28:20.870 --> 00:28:20.880 align:start position:0%
minimize harm and maximize safety. Um
 

00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:24.630 align:start position:0%
minimize harm and maximize safety. Um
and<00:28:21.919><c> uh</c><00:28:22.000><c> and</c><00:28:22.159><c> and</c><00:28:22.480><c> that</c><00:28:22.720><c> sometimes</c><00:28:23.200><c> has</c><00:28:23.600><c> has</c><00:28:23.919><c> a</c>

00:28:24.630 --> 00:28:24.640 align:start position:0%
and uh and and that sometimes has has a
 

00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:27.269 align:start position:0%
and uh and and that sometimes has has a
uh<00:28:24.799><c> well</c><00:28:25.120><c> often</c><00:28:25.520><c> really</c><00:28:26.240><c> stands</c><00:28:26.640><c> in</c><00:28:26.880><c> tension</c>

00:28:27.269 --> 00:28:27.279 align:start position:0%
uh well often really stands in tension
 

00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:30.230 align:start position:0%
uh well often really stands in tension
to<00:28:27.600><c> the</c><00:28:27.840><c> concept</c><00:28:28.159><c> of</c><00:28:28.320><c> dignity</c><00:28:28.720><c> of</c><00:28:28.960><c> risk.</c><00:28:30.000><c> Um</c>

00:28:30.230 --> 00:28:30.240 align:start position:0%
to the concept of dignity of risk. Um
 

00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:31.990 align:start position:0%
to the concept of dignity of risk. Um
which<00:28:30.399><c> is</c><00:28:30.559><c> really</c><00:28:30.799><c> about</c><00:28:31.039><c> empowerment</c><00:28:31.679><c> and</c>

00:28:31.990 --> 00:28:32.000 align:start position:0%
which is really about empowerment and
 

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which is really about empowerment and
enabling<00:28:32.480><c> consumers</c><00:28:33.039><c> to</c><00:28:34.000><c> uh</c><00:28:34.080><c> and</c><00:28:34.320><c> indeed</c>

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enabling consumers to uh and indeed
 

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enabling consumers to uh and indeed
their<00:28:34.880><c> carers</c><00:28:35.360><c> to</c><00:28:35.600><c> be</c><00:28:35.760><c> able</c><00:28:35.919><c> to</c><00:28:36.080><c> choose</c><00:28:36.320><c> the</c>

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their carers to be able to choose the
 

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their carers to be able to choose the
life<00:28:36.799><c> that</c><00:28:37.120><c> they</c><00:28:37.360><c> want</c><00:28:37.520><c> to</c><00:28:37.679><c> live.</c><00:28:38.720><c> um</c><00:28:39.760><c> uh</c><00:28:40.000><c> even</c>

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life that they want to live. um uh even
 

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life that they want to live. um uh even
if<00:28:40.480><c> that</c><00:28:40.720><c> sometimes</c><00:28:41.360><c> involves</c><00:28:42.320><c> uh</c><00:28:42.399><c> a</c><00:28:42.640><c> bit</c><00:28:42.720><c> of</c>

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if that sometimes involves uh a bit of
 

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if that sometimes involves uh a bit of
risks.<00:28:44.159><c> And</c><00:28:45.120><c> I</c><00:28:45.279><c> I</c><00:28:45.600><c> think</c><00:28:45.760><c> these</c><00:28:46.080><c> these</c><00:28:46.640><c> two</c>

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risks. And I I think these these two
 

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risks. And I I think these these two
perspectives<00:28:47.520><c> are</c><00:28:47.760><c> really</c><00:28:48.000><c> important</c><00:28:48.240><c> to</c>

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perspectives are really important to
 

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perspectives are really important to
keep<00:28:49.039><c> in</c><00:28:49.200><c> mind.</c><00:28:49.600><c> Oh,</c><00:28:49.919><c> we've</c><00:28:50.240><c> lost</c><00:28:50.480><c> the</c><00:28:50.640><c> slides.</c>

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keep in mind. Oh, we've lost the slides.
 

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keep in mind. Oh, we've lost the slides.
Um

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Um
 

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Um
can<00:28:54.080><c> we</c><00:28:54.559><c> Thank</c><00:28:54.880><c> you.</c><00:28:56.000><c> Um</c><00:28:56.720><c> got</c><00:28:56.880><c> to</c><00:28:57.039><c> got</c><00:28:57.200><c> to</c><00:28:57.360><c> watch</c>

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can we Thank you. Um got to got to watch
 

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can we Thank you. Um got to got to watch
the<00:28:57.840><c> wandering</c><00:28:58.240><c> mice.</c><00:28:59.279><c> Um</c><00:29:00.080><c> so</c><00:29:01.120><c> uh</c><00:29:01.360><c> to</c><00:29:01.679><c> have</c><00:29:02.399><c> uh</c>

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the wandering mice. Um so uh to have uh
 

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the wandering mice. Um so uh to have uh
to<00:29:02.960><c> find</c><00:29:03.120><c> that</c><00:29:03.279><c> balance</c><00:29:03.600><c> and</c><00:29:03.760><c> and</c><00:29:04.000><c> I</c><00:29:04.240><c> think</c>

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to find that balance and and I think
 

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to find that balance and and I think
this<00:29:04.640><c> connects</c><00:29:04.960><c> in</c><00:29:05.200><c> importantly</c><00:29:05.679><c> really</c><00:29:05.919><c> to</c>

00:29:06.230 --> 00:29:06.240 align:start position:0%
this connects in importantly really to
 

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this connects in importantly really to
some<00:29:06.480><c> of</c><00:29:06.640><c> Crystal</c><00:29:06.960><c> Bell's</c><00:29:07.200><c> points</c><00:29:07.520><c> around</c><00:29:08.720><c> um</c>

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some of Crystal Bell's points around um
 

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some of Crystal Bell's points around um
around<00:29:09.520><c> reflective</c><00:29:10.080><c> practice</c><00:29:10.559><c> because</c><00:29:10.960><c> one</c>

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around reflective practice because one
 

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around reflective practice because one
of<00:29:11.279><c> the</c><00:29:11.440><c> things</c><00:29:11.679><c> that</c><00:29:12.000><c> is</c><00:29:13.200><c> um</c>

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of the things that is um
 

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of the things that is um
uh<00:29:15.200><c> that</c><00:29:15.440><c> is</c><00:29:15.679><c> important</c><00:29:15.840><c> to</c><00:29:16.000><c> keep</c><00:29:16.159><c> in</c><00:29:16.320><c> mind</c><00:29:16.559><c> is</c>

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uh that is important to keep in mind is
 

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uh that is important to keep in mind is
that<00:29:17.120><c> often</c><00:29:17.600><c> risk</c><00:29:18.000><c> tolerance</c><00:29:18.559><c> is</c><00:29:18.799><c> is</c><00:29:19.120><c> much</c>

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that often risk tolerance is is much
 

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that often risk tolerance is is much
more<00:29:19.520><c> of</c><00:29:19.679><c> a</c><00:29:19.919><c> individual</c><00:29:20.399><c> personality</c><00:29:20.960><c> trait</c>

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more of a individual personality trait
 

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more of a individual personality trait
um<00:29:21.600><c> not</c><00:29:21.760><c> necessarily</c><00:29:22.159><c> an</c><00:29:22.399><c> organizational</c>

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um not necessarily an organizational
 

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um not necessarily an organizational
one.<00:29:23.760><c> Um</c><00:29:24.080><c> and</c><00:29:24.320><c> if</c><00:29:24.480><c> you're</c><00:29:24.559><c> in</c><00:29:24.720><c> a</c><00:29:24.880><c> leadership</c><00:29:25.600><c> um</c>

00:29:25.830 --> 00:29:25.840 align:start position:0%
one. Um and if you're in a leadership um
 

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one. Um and if you're in a leadership um
position,<00:29:26.399><c> often</c><00:29:26.799><c> that</c><00:29:27.039><c> that</c><00:29:27.760><c> um</c><00:29:28.399><c> personality</c>

00:29:29.029 --> 00:29:29.039 align:start position:0%
position, often that that um personality
 

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position, often that that um personality
element<00:29:29.360><c> and</c><00:29:29.520><c> your</c><00:29:29.760><c> personal</c><00:29:30.000><c> risk</c><00:29:30.240><c> tolerance</c>

00:29:30.710 --> 00:29:30.720 align:start position:0%
element and your personal risk tolerance
 

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element and your personal risk tolerance
can<00:29:30.960><c> cascade</c><00:29:31.440><c> out</c><00:29:31.679><c> to</c><00:29:32.640><c> um</c><00:29:32.720><c> the</c><00:29:33.039><c> broader</c><00:29:33.360><c> team.</c>

00:29:34.070 --> 00:29:34.080 align:start position:0%
can cascade out to um the broader team.
 

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can cascade out to um the broader team.
So<00:29:34.320><c> that</c><00:29:34.559><c> self-awareness</c><00:29:35.279><c> of</c><00:29:35.440><c> where</c><00:29:35.679><c> you</c><00:29:35.840><c> tend</c>

00:29:36.070 --> 00:29:36.080 align:start position:0%
So that self-awareness of where you tend
 

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So that self-awareness of where you tend
to<00:29:36.320><c> sit</c><00:29:36.799><c> in</c><00:29:37.039><c> in</c><00:29:37.440><c> that</c><00:29:37.760><c> kind</c><00:29:37.919><c> of</c><00:29:38.640><c> what</c><00:29:38.799><c> your</c>

00:29:38.950 --> 00:29:38.960 align:start position:0%
to sit in in that kind of what your
 

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to sit in in that kind of what your
natural<00:29:39.279><c> inclination</c><00:29:39.840><c> tends</c><00:29:40.080><c> to</c><00:29:40.159><c> be</c><00:29:40.399><c> in</c><00:29:40.559><c> terms</c>

00:29:40.710 --> 00:29:40.720 align:start position:0%
natural inclination tends to be in terms
 

00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:43.110 align:start position:0%
natural inclination tends to be in terms
of<00:29:40.880><c> how</c><00:29:41.120><c> you</c><00:29:41.600><c> think</c><00:29:41.840><c> about</c><00:29:42.240><c> risk</c><00:29:42.480><c> and</c><00:29:42.799><c> how</c><00:29:42.880><c> you</c>

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of how you think about risk and how you
 

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of how you think about risk and how you
think<00:29:43.279><c> about</c><00:29:43.520><c> safety.</c>

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think about safety.
 

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think about safety.
um<00:29:45.440><c> and</c><00:29:46.480><c> uh</c><00:29:47.360><c> uh</c><00:29:47.840><c> is</c><00:29:48.080><c> is</c><00:29:48.480><c> like</c><00:29:48.880><c> a</c><00:29:49.200><c> really</c>

00:29:49.430 --> 00:29:49.440 align:start position:0%
um and uh uh is is like a really
 

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um and uh uh is is like a really
important<00:29:49.919><c> one</c><00:29:50.159><c> to</c><00:29:50.399><c> enable</c><00:29:51.279><c> the</c>

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important one to enable the
 

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important one to enable the
implementation<00:29:52.320><c> of</c><00:29:52.480><c> that</c><00:29:52.640><c> that</c><00:29:52.960><c> right</c>

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implementation of that that right
 

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implementation of that that right
balance<00:29:53.679><c> between</c><00:29:54.880><c> um</c><00:29:55.679><c> the</c><00:29:55.919><c> dignity</c><00:29:56.240><c> of</c><00:29:56.480><c> risk</c>

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balance between um the dignity of risk
 

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balance between um the dignity of risk
and<00:29:56.880><c> and</c><00:29:57.679><c> um</c><00:29:57.760><c> the</c><00:29:58.000><c> duty</c><00:29:58.320><c> of</c><00:29:58.480><c> care.</c><00:29:59.679><c> We</c><00:29:59.840><c> skip</c>

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and and um the duty of care. We skip
 

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and and um the duty of care. We skip
ahead<00:30:01.360><c> for</c><00:30:01.600><c> a</c><00:30:01.760><c> moment</c>

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ahead for a moment
 

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ahead for a moment
to<00:30:04.080><c> the</c><00:30:04.240><c> next</c><00:30:04.399><c> slide.</c><00:30:04.960><c> Thank</c><00:30:05.120><c> you.</c><00:30:05.919><c> Um</c><00:30:06.399><c> some</c><00:30:06.640><c> of</c>

00:30:06.710 --> 00:30:06.720 align:start position:0%
to the next slide. Thank you. Um some of
 

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to the next slide. Thank you. Um some of
the<00:30:06.880><c> things</c><00:30:07.039><c> that</c><00:30:07.279><c> really</c><00:30:07.520><c> do</c><00:30:08.000><c> enable</c><00:30:08.559><c> that</c>

00:30:09.190 --> 00:30:09.200 align:start position:0%
the things that really do enable that
 

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the things that really do enable that
though<00:30:09.520><c> and</c><00:30:09.760><c> that</c><00:30:09.919><c> that</c><00:30:10.559><c> um</c><00:30:10.799><c> level</c><00:30:11.039><c> of</c><00:30:11.360><c> kind</c><00:30:11.520><c> of</c>

00:30:12.149 --> 00:30:12.159 align:start position:0%
though and that that um level of kind of
 

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though and that that um level of kind of
um<00:30:12.480><c> we</c><00:30:12.799><c> sometimes</c><00:30:13.200><c> also</c><00:30:13.600><c> refer</c><00:30:13.840><c> to</c><00:30:14.080><c> as</c>

00:30:14.230 --> 00:30:14.240 align:start position:0%
um we sometimes also refer to as
 

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um we sometimes also refer to as
therapeutic<00:30:14.720><c> risk-taking</c><00:30:15.919><c> uh</c><00:30:16.000><c> is</c><00:30:16.240><c> a</c>

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therapeutic risk-taking uh is a
 

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therapeutic risk-taking uh is a
collaborative<00:30:16.880><c> approach.</c><00:30:17.440><c> Um</c><00:30:17.840><c> so</c><00:30:18.880><c> uh</c>

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collaborative approach. Um so uh
 

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collaborative approach. Um so uh
collaborating<00:30:19.679><c> not</c><00:30:19.919><c> just</c><00:30:20.080><c> with</c><00:30:20.640><c> the</c><00:30:20.960><c> consumer</c>

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collaborating not just with the consumer
 

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collaborating not just with the consumer
but<00:30:21.679><c> also</c><00:30:22.320><c> across</c><00:30:22.720><c> your</c><00:30:23.039><c> team</c><00:30:23.760><c> in</c><00:30:24.080><c> making</c><00:30:24.399><c> sure</c>

00:30:24.630 --> 00:30:24.640 align:start position:0%
but also across your team in making sure
 

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but also across your team in making sure
that<00:30:24.960><c> you</c><00:30:25.200><c> have</c><00:30:26.000><c> um</c><00:30:26.320><c> you</c><00:30:26.559><c> make</c><00:30:26.799><c> plans</c><00:30:27.120><c> that</c>

00:30:27.350 --> 00:30:27.360 align:start position:0%
that you have um you make plans that
 

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that you have um you make plans that
take<00:30:27.600><c> into</c><00:30:27.840><c> account</c><00:30:28.799><c> u</c><00:30:28.880><c> those</c><00:30:29.120><c> those</c>

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take into account u those those
 

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take into account u those those
different<00:30:29.679><c> perspectives</c><00:30:30.240><c> on</c><00:30:30.880><c> uh</c><00:30:31.120><c> on</c><00:30:31.360><c> risk</c><00:30:32.000><c> and</c>

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different perspectives on uh on risk and
 

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different perspectives on uh on risk and
what<00:30:32.399><c> what</c><00:30:32.799><c> maintains</c><00:30:33.600><c> safety.</c>

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what what maintains safety.
 

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what what maintains safety.
um<00:30:35.279><c> having</c><00:30:35.600><c> some</c><00:30:35.760><c> clarity</c><00:30:36.240><c> as</c><00:30:36.399><c> well</c><00:30:36.640><c> between</c>

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um having some clarity as well between
 

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um having some clarity as well between
individuals<00:30:37.600><c> in</c><00:30:37.840><c> the</c><00:30:38.000><c> team</c><00:30:38.159><c> and</c><00:30:38.399><c> what</c><00:30:38.559><c> their</c>

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individuals in the team and what their
 

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individuals in the team and what their
role<00:30:39.120><c> is</c><00:30:39.360><c> in</c><00:30:39.600><c> in</c><00:30:40.000><c> holding</c><00:30:40.399><c> risks.</c><00:30:40.960><c> Sometimes</c>

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role is in in holding risks. Sometimes
 

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role is in in holding risks. Sometimes
there<00:30:41.520><c> can</c><00:30:41.679><c> be</c><00:30:41.840><c> assumptions.</c><00:30:42.880><c> Um</c><00:30:43.279><c> often</c><00:30:43.600><c> in</c><00:30:43.760><c> in</c>

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there can be assumptions. Um often in in
 

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there can be assumptions. Um often in in
clinical<00:30:44.559><c> teams</c><00:30:44.960><c> the</c><00:30:45.200><c> psychiatrist</c><00:30:45.760><c> is</c><00:30:46.000><c> kind</c>

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clinical teams the psychiatrist is kind
 

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clinical teams the psychiatrist is kind
of<00:30:46.159><c> the</c><00:30:46.320><c> holder</c><00:30:46.640><c> of</c><00:30:46.799><c> the</c><00:30:47.039><c> risk.</c><00:30:47.679><c> Um</c><00:30:48.000><c> but</c><00:30:48.240><c> in</c><00:30:49.279><c> uh</c>

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of the holder of the risk. Um but in uh
 

00:30:49.520 --> 00:30:51.669 align:start position:0%
of the holder of the risk. Um but in uh
but<00:30:50.320><c> you</c><00:30:50.399><c> know</c><00:30:50.559><c> that</c><00:30:50.799><c> can</c><00:30:50.880><c> be</c><00:30:51.039><c> problematic</c><00:30:51.440><c> in</c>

00:30:51.669 --> 00:30:51.679 align:start position:0%
but you know that can be problematic in
 

00:30:51.679 --> 00:30:53.350 align:start position:0%
but you know that can be problematic in
its<00:30:51.919><c> in</c><00:30:52.080><c> its</c><00:30:52.240><c> own</c><00:30:52.399><c> way</c><00:30:52.559><c> and</c><00:30:52.799><c> sometimes</c><00:30:53.200><c> those</c>

00:30:53.350 --> 00:30:53.360 align:start position:0%
its in its own way and sometimes those
 

00:30:53.360 --> 00:30:56.870 align:start position:0%
its in its own way and sometimes those
those<00:30:54.320><c> uh</c><00:30:54.559><c> expectations</c><00:30:55.440><c> need</c><00:30:55.679><c> to</c><00:30:55.840><c> be</c><00:30:56.000><c> made</c><00:30:56.640><c> as</c>

00:30:56.870 --> 00:30:56.880 align:start position:0%
those uh expectations need to be made as
 

00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:59.110 align:start position:0%
those uh expectations need to be made as
explicit<00:30:57.520><c> as</c><00:30:57.760><c> as</c><00:30:58.240><c> possible</c><00:30:58.559><c> and</c><00:30:58.720><c> and</c>

00:30:59.110 --> 00:30:59.120 align:start position:0%
explicit as as possible and and
 

00:30:59.120 --> 00:31:01.430 align:start position:0%
explicit as as possible and and
sometimes<00:30:59.600><c> there's</c><00:30:59.840><c> that</c><00:31:00.080><c> balance</c><00:31:00.559><c> between</c>

00:31:01.430 --> 00:31:01.440 align:start position:0%
sometimes there's that balance between
 

00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:03.669 align:start position:0%
sometimes there's that balance between
who's<00:31:01.840><c> holding</c><00:31:02.159><c> it</c><00:31:02.559><c> and</c><00:31:02.799><c> who's</c><00:31:03.120><c> able</c><00:31:03.360><c> to</c><00:31:03.520><c> kind</c>

00:31:03.669 --> 00:31:03.679 align:start position:0%
who's holding it and who's able to kind
 

00:31:03.679 --> 00:31:05.909 align:start position:0%
who's holding it and who's able to kind
of<00:31:04.159><c> create</c><00:31:04.480><c> the</c><00:31:04.720><c> environment</c><00:31:05.360><c> or</c><00:31:05.600><c> has</c><00:31:05.760><c> the</c>

00:31:05.909 --> 00:31:05.919 align:start position:0%
of create the environment or has the
 

00:31:05.919 --> 00:31:07.830 align:start position:0%
of create the environment or has the
time<00:31:06.080><c> and</c><00:31:06.240><c> and</c><00:31:06.559><c> the</c><00:31:06.799><c> relationship</c><00:31:07.279><c> to</c><00:31:07.600><c> create</c>

00:31:07.830 --> 00:31:07.840 align:start position:0%
time and and the relationship to create
 

00:31:07.840 --> 00:31:10.630 align:start position:0%
time and and the relationship to create
the<00:31:08.080><c> environment</c><00:31:09.279><c> that</c><00:31:09.600><c> helps</c><00:31:09.840><c> for</c><00:31:10.080><c> that</c><00:31:10.480><c> um</c>

00:31:10.630 --> 00:31:10.640 align:start position:0%
the environment that helps for that um
 

00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:12.470 align:start position:0%
the environment that helps for that um
adequate<00:31:11.120><c> balancing</c><00:31:11.600><c> of</c><00:31:11.760><c> those</c><00:31:12.000><c> those</c><00:31:12.320><c> two</c>

00:31:12.470 --> 00:31:12.480 align:start position:0%
adequate balancing of those those two
 

00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:14.310 align:start position:0%
adequate balancing of those those two
principles.

00:31:14.310 --> 00:31:14.320 align:start position:0%
principles.
 

00:31:14.320 --> 00:31:17.350 align:start position:0%
principles.
Um<00:31:15.039><c> really</c><00:31:15.360><c> critical</c><00:31:15.760><c> though</c><00:31:16.000><c> to</c><00:31:16.880><c> make</c><00:31:17.120><c> sure</c>

00:31:17.350 --> 00:31:17.360 align:start position:0%
Um really critical though to make sure
 

00:31:17.360 --> 00:31:19.750 align:start position:0%
Um really critical though to make sure
all<00:31:17.520><c> of</c><00:31:17.679><c> that</c><00:31:17.919><c> planning</c><00:31:18.399><c> is</c><00:31:18.799><c> really</c><00:31:19.279><c> strongly</c>

00:31:19.750 --> 00:31:19.760 align:start position:0%
all of that planning is really strongly
 

00:31:19.760 --> 00:31:22.389 align:start position:0%
all of that planning is really strongly
grounded<00:31:20.320><c> in</c><00:31:20.640><c> the</c><00:31:21.200><c> person's</c><00:31:21.679><c> actual</c><00:31:22.080><c> past</c>

00:31:22.389 --> 00:31:22.399 align:start position:0%
grounded in the person's actual past
 

00:31:22.399 --> 00:31:24.710 align:start position:0%
grounded in the person's actual past
experiences.<00:31:23.520><c> Um</c><00:31:23.840><c> how</c><00:31:24.080><c> those</c><00:31:24.320><c> risks</c><00:31:24.559><c> have</c>

00:31:24.710 --> 00:31:24.720 align:start position:0%
experiences. Um how those risks have
 

00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:26.149 align:start position:0%
experiences. Um how those risks have
been<00:31:24.799><c> managed</c><00:31:25.039><c> in</c><00:31:25.200><c> the</c><00:31:25.360><c> past,</c><00:31:25.600><c> their</c><00:31:25.840><c> needs,</c>

00:31:26.149 --> 00:31:26.159 align:start position:0%
been managed in the past, their needs,
 

00:31:26.159 --> 00:31:28.470 align:start position:0%
been managed in the past, their needs,
their<00:31:26.399><c> strengths,</c><00:31:26.799><c> their</c><00:31:27.039><c> goals.</c><00:31:27.919><c> Um</c><00:31:28.240><c> and</c>

00:31:28.470 --> 00:31:28.480 align:start position:0%
their strengths, their goals. Um and
 

00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:31.990 align:start position:0%
their strengths, their goals. Um and
that<00:31:28.640><c> that</c><00:31:29.360><c> needs</c><00:31:29.679><c> a</c><00:31:29.919><c> lot</c><00:31:30.000><c> of</c><00:31:30.320><c> that</c><00:31:31.120><c> um</c><00:31:31.760><c> a</c>

00:31:31.990 --> 00:31:32.000 align:start position:0%
that that needs a lot of that um a
 

00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:34.070 align:start position:0%
that that needs a lot of that um a
return<00:31:32.240><c> to</c><00:31:32.399><c> that</c><00:31:32.640><c> foundational</c><00:31:33.279><c> principle</c><00:31:33.760><c> of</c>

00:31:34.070 --> 00:31:34.080 align:start position:0%
return to that foundational principle of
 

00:31:34.080 --> 00:31:36.950 align:start position:0%
return to that foundational principle of
moving<00:31:34.799><c> from</c><00:31:35.760><c> you</c><00:31:35.919><c> know</c><00:31:36.080><c> what's</c><00:31:36.399><c> what's</c><00:31:36.799><c> wrong</c>

00:31:36.950 --> 00:31:36.960 align:start position:0%
moving from you know what's what's wrong
 

00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:38.630 align:start position:0%
moving from you know what's what's wrong
with<00:31:37.120><c> this</c><00:31:37.360><c> person</c><00:31:37.600><c> through</c><00:31:37.919><c> what</c><00:31:38.159><c> to</c><00:31:38.399><c> what</c>

00:31:38.630 --> 00:31:38.640 align:start position:0%
with this person through what to what
 

00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:40.710 align:start position:0%
with this person through what to what
actually<00:31:38.960><c> happened</c><00:31:39.279><c> to</c><00:31:39.440><c> them.</c><00:31:40.080><c> um</c><00:31:40.240><c> and</c><00:31:40.320><c> and</c>

00:31:40.710 --> 00:31:40.720 align:start position:0%
actually happened to them. um and and
 

00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:43.110 align:start position:0%
actually happened to them. um and and
how<00:31:40.960><c> that</c><00:31:41.200><c> that</c><00:31:41.679><c> experience</c><00:31:42.080><c> of</c><00:31:42.240><c> trauma</c><00:31:42.720><c> may</c>

00:31:43.110 --> 00:31:43.120 align:start position:0%
how that that experience of trauma may
 

00:31:43.120 --> 00:31:47.190 align:start position:0%
how that that experience of trauma may
shape<00:31:44.320><c> um</c><00:31:44.880><c> I</c><00:31:45.120><c> guess</c><00:31:45.279><c> the</c><00:31:46.399><c> uh</c><00:31:46.559><c> the</c><00:31:46.880><c> experience</c>

00:31:47.190 --> 00:31:47.200 align:start position:0%
shape um I guess the uh the experience
 

00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:49.110 align:start position:0%
shape um I guess the uh the experience
of<00:31:47.440><c> the</c><00:31:47.600><c> consumer</c><00:31:47.840><c> and</c><00:31:48.080><c> how</c><00:31:48.320><c> they're</c><00:31:48.880><c> um</c>

00:31:49.110 --> 00:31:49.120 align:start position:0%
of the consumer and how they're um
 

00:31:49.120 --> 00:31:50.549 align:start position:0%
of the consumer and how they're um
interacting<00:31:49.600><c> I</c><00:31:49.840><c> guess</c><00:31:49.919><c> in</c><00:31:50.080><c> that</c><00:31:50.320><c> that</c>

00:31:50.549 --> 00:31:50.559 align:start position:0%
interacting I guess in that that
 

00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:52.870 align:start position:0%
interacting I guess in that that
clinical<00:31:51.120><c> environment</c><00:31:52.000><c> clinical</c><00:31:52.399><c> or</c><00:31:52.559><c> service</c>

00:31:52.870 --> 00:31:52.880 align:start position:0%
clinical environment clinical or service
 

00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:57.430 align:start position:0%
clinical environment clinical or service
delivery<00:31:53.279><c> environment.</c><00:31:54.720><c> Um,</c><00:31:55.840><c> and</c><00:31:57.120><c> you</c><00:31:57.279><c> know,</c>

00:31:57.430 --> 00:31:57.440 align:start position:0%
delivery environment. Um, and you know,
 

00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:00.789 align:start position:0%
delivery environment. Um, and you know,
we<00:31:58.080><c> I'm</c><00:31:58.320><c> I'm</c><00:31:58.559><c> often</c><00:31:58.960><c> reminded</c><00:31:59.519><c> actually</c><00:31:59.919><c> of</c>

00:32:00.789 --> 00:32:00.799 align:start position:0%
we I'm I'm often reminded actually of
 

00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:04.549 align:start position:0%
we I'm I'm often reminded actually of
the<00:32:01.200><c> importance</c><00:32:02.320><c> also</c><00:32:02.799><c> sometimes</c><00:32:03.279><c> that</c>

00:32:04.549 --> 00:32:04.559 align:start position:0%
the importance also sometimes that
 

00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:07.029 align:start position:0%
the importance also sometimes that
within<00:32:04.880><c> a</c><00:32:05.039><c> team</c><00:32:05.279><c> context</c><00:32:05.760><c> often</c><00:32:06.080><c> it's</c><00:32:06.399><c> only</c><00:32:06.720><c> a</c>

00:32:07.029 --> 00:32:07.039 align:start position:0%
within a team context often it's only a
 

00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:09.110 align:start position:0%
within a team context often it's only a
couple<00:32:07.200><c> of</c><00:32:07.360><c> individuals</c><00:32:08.240><c> that</c><00:32:08.640><c> hold</c><00:32:08.880><c> the</c>

00:32:09.110 --> 00:32:09.120 align:start position:0%
couple of individuals that hold the
 

00:32:09.120 --> 00:32:12.149 align:start position:0%
couple of individuals that hold the
knowledge<00:32:09.519><c> about</c><00:32:10.159><c> what</c><00:32:10.960><c> uh</c><00:32:11.120><c> what</c><00:32:11.440><c> experiences</c>

00:32:12.149 --> 00:32:12.159 align:start position:0%
knowledge about what uh what experiences
 

00:32:12.159 --> 00:32:15.669 align:start position:0%
knowledge about what uh what experiences
a<00:32:12.399><c> consumer</c><00:32:13.039><c> have</c><00:32:13.279><c> gone</c><00:32:13.519><c> through.</c><00:32:14.559><c> Um</c><00:32:15.200><c> and</c><00:32:15.360><c> and</c>

00:32:15.669 --> 00:32:15.679 align:start position:0%
a consumer have gone through. Um and and
 

00:32:15.679 --> 00:32:17.509 align:start position:0%
a consumer have gone through. Um and and
that<00:32:15.919><c> can</c><00:32:16.080><c> be</c><00:32:16.159><c> a</c><00:32:16.320><c> bit</c><00:32:16.399><c> of</c><00:32:16.480><c> a</c><00:32:16.640><c> double</c><00:32:16.880><c> bind</c><00:32:17.120><c> in</c><00:32:17.360><c> so</c>

00:32:17.509 --> 00:32:17.519 align:start position:0%
that can be a bit of a double bind in so
 

00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:19.110 align:start position:0%
that can be a bit of a double bind in so
far<00:32:17.679><c> as</c><00:32:17.919><c> you</c><00:32:18.080><c> don't</c><00:32:18.240><c> want</c><00:32:18.320><c> to</c><00:32:18.640><c> as</c><00:32:18.799><c> we've</c>

00:32:19.110 --> 00:32:19.120 align:start position:0%
far as you don't want to as we've
 

00:32:19.120 --> 00:32:21.830 align:start position:0%
far as you don't want to as we've
discussed<00:32:19.519><c> you</c><00:32:19.679><c> know</c><00:32:19.760><c> there</c><00:32:20.240><c> there</c><00:32:20.480><c> is</c><00:32:20.720><c> a</c><00:32:21.519><c> an</c>

00:32:21.830 --> 00:32:21.840 align:start position:0%
discussed you know there there is a an
 

00:32:21.840 --> 00:32:24.070 align:start position:0%
discussed you know there there is a an
important<00:32:22.720><c> importance</c><00:32:23.120><c> in</c><00:32:23.360><c> having</c><00:32:23.600><c> awareness</c>

00:32:24.070 --> 00:32:24.080 align:start position:0%
important importance in having awareness
 

00:32:24.080 --> 00:32:25.830 align:start position:0%
important importance in having awareness
of<00:32:24.320><c> what</c><00:32:24.480><c> your</c><00:32:24.640><c> role</c><00:32:24.880><c> is</c><00:32:25.120><c> in</c><00:32:25.360><c> terms</c><00:32:25.519><c> of</c><00:32:25.600><c> how</c>

00:32:25.830 --> 00:32:25.840 align:start position:0%
of what your role is in terms of how
 

00:32:25.840 --> 00:32:28.070 align:start position:0%
of what your role is in terms of how
much<00:32:26.480><c> you</c><00:32:26.640><c> know</c><00:32:26.720><c> you</c><00:32:26.960><c> dig</c><00:32:27.120><c> in</c><00:32:27.279><c> and</c><00:32:27.519><c> hold</c><00:32:27.840><c> in</c>

00:32:28.070 --> 00:32:28.080 align:start position:0%
much you know you dig in and hold in
 

00:32:28.080 --> 00:32:29.509 align:start position:0%
much you know you dig in and hold in
terms<00:32:28.240><c> of</c><00:32:28.320><c> the</c><00:32:28.480><c> details</c><00:32:28.960><c> around</c><00:32:29.279><c> what</c>

00:32:29.509 --> 00:32:29.519 align:start position:0%
terms of the details around what
 

00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:31.350 align:start position:0%
terms of the details around what
happened.<00:32:30.240><c> Um</c><00:32:30.480><c> but</c><00:32:30.720><c> sometimes</c><00:32:30.960><c> it</c><00:32:31.200><c> is</c>

00:32:31.350 --> 00:32:31.360 align:start position:0%
happened. Um but sometimes it is
 

00:32:31.360 --> 00:32:33.029 align:start position:0%
happened. Um but sometimes it is
critically<00:32:31.760><c> important</c><00:32:32.000><c> that</c><00:32:32.240><c> some</c><00:32:32.480><c> of</c><00:32:32.640><c> that</c>

00:32:33.029 --> 00:32:33.039 align:start position:0%
critically important that some of that
 

00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:35.990 align:start position:0%
critically important that some of that
insight<00:32:33.519><c> be</c><00:32:33.760><c> shared</c><00:32:34.080><c> so</c><00:32:34.320><c> that</c><00:32:35.200><c> um</c><00:32:35.600><c> the</c><00:32:35.840><c> right</c>

00:32:35.990 --> 00:32:36.000 align:start position:0%
insight be shared so that um the right
 

00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:37.509 align:start position:0%
insight be shared so that um the right
empathy<00:32:36.399><c> and</c><00:32:36.559><c> the</c><00:32:36.640><c> right</c><00:32:36.880><c> understanding</c><00:32:37.360><c> can</c>

00:32:37.509 --> 00:32:37.519 align:start position:0%
empathy and the right understanding can
 

00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:40.549 align:start position:0%
empathy and the right understanding can
be<00:32:37.679><c> held</c><00:32:37.919><c> across</c><00:32:38.240><c> a</c><00:32:38.480><c> team.</c><00:32:39.519><c> Um</c><00:32:39.760><c> so</c><00:32:40.000><c> sometimes</c><00:32:40.320><c> I</c>

00:32:40.549 --> 00:32:40.559 align:start position:0%
be held across a team. Um so sometimes I
 

00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:43.350 align:start position:0%
be held across a team. Um so sometimes I
found<00:32:40.799><c> it</c><00:32:41.039><c> really</c><00:32:41.360><c> useful</c><00:32:42.399><c> and</c><00:32:42.559><c> and</c><00:32:42.960><c> grounding</c>

00:32:43.350 --> 00:32:43.360 align:start position:0%
found it really useful and and grounding
 

00:32:43.360 --> 00:32:46.710 align:start position:0%
found it really useful and and grounding
to<00:32:43.679><c> remind</c><00:32:44.559><c> u</c><00:32:44.720><c> people</c><00:32:45.039><c> about</c><00:32:45.440><c> some</c><00:32:45.679><c> of</c><00:32:45.840><c> those</c>

00:32:46.710 --> 00:32:46.720 align:start position:0%
to remind u people about some of those
 

00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:48.230 align:start position:0%
to remind u people about some of those
uh<00:32:46.880><c> experiences</c><00:32:47.279><c> that</c><00:32:47.519><c> an</c><00:32:47.679><c> individual</c><00:32:48.000><c> might</c>

00:32:48.230 --> 00:32:48.240 align:start position:0%
uh experiences that an individual might
 

00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:50.230 align:start position:0%
uh experiences that an individual might
have<00:32:48.399><c> had</c><00:32:48.960><c> u</c><00:32:49.120><c> particularly</c><00:32:49.679><c> where</c><00:32:49.919><c> it</c><00:32:50.080><c> might</c>

00:32:50.230 --> 00:32:50.240 align:start position:0%
have had u particularly where it might
 

00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:52.789 align:start position:0%
have had u particularly where it might
refer<00:32:51.120><c> uh</c><00:32:51.440><c> where</c><00:32:51.679><c> it</c><00:32:51.840><c> might</c><00:32:52.080><c> link</c><00:32:52.320><c> in</c><00:32:52.559><c> with</c>

00:32:52.789 --> 00:32:52.799 align:start position:0%
refer uh where it might link in with
 

00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:54.549 align:start position:0%
refer uh where it might link in with
restrictive<00:32:53.279><c> practices</c><00:32:53.760><c> and</c><00:32:54.000><c> the</c><00:32:54.159><c> parallels</c>

00:32:54.549 --> 00:32:54.559 align:start position:0%
restrictive practices and the parallels
 

00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:57.029 align:start position:0%
restrictive practices and the parallels
that<00:32:54.720><c> there</c><00:32:54.960><c> might</c><00:32:55.120><c> be.</c><00:32:55.919><c> Um</c><00:32:56.240><c> but</c><00:32:56.559><c> sometimes</c>

00:32:57.029 --> 00:32:57.039 align:start position:0%
that there might be. Um but sometimes
 

00:32:57.039 --> 00:32:58.630 align:start position:0%
that there might be. Um but sometimes
you<00:32:57.200><c> know</c><00:32:57.279><c> and</c><00:32:57.440><c> I</c><00:32:57.600><c> was</c><00:32:57.679><c> reminded</c><00:32:58.000><c> of</c><00:32:58.159><c> this</c><00:32:58.399><c> in</c>

00:32:58.630 --> 00:32:58.640 align:start position:0%
you know and I was reminded of this in
 

00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:01.669 align:start position:0%
you know and I was reminded of this in
particular<00:32:59.120><c> on</c><00:32:59.360><c> call</c><00:32:59.679><c> a</c><00:32:59.919><c> couple</c><00:33:00.159><c> of</c><00:33:00.480><c> weeks</c><00:33:00.799><c> ago</c>

00:33:01.669 --> 00:33:01.679 align:start position:0%
particular on call a couple of weeks ago
 

00:33:01.679 --> 00:33:04.549 align:start position:0%
particular on call a couple of weeks ago
where<00:33:02.799><c> a</c><00:33:03.039><c> specific</c><00:33:03.519><c> team</c><00:33:03.840><c> had</c><00:33:04.080><c> had</c><00:33:04.240><c> their</c><00:33:04.399><c> own</c>

00:33:04.549 --> 00:33:04.559 align:start position:0%
where a specific team had had their own
 

00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:06.789 align:start position:0%
where a specific team had had their own
traumas<00:33:05.360><c> um</c><00:33:05.440><c> in</c><00:33:05.679><c> a</c><00:33:06.080><c> reasonably</c><00:33:06.559><c> well</c>

00:33:06.789 --> 00:33:06.799 align:start position:0%
traumas um in a reasonably well
 

00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:09.269 align:start position:0%
traumas um in a reasonably well
publicized<00:33:07.360><c> incident</c><00:33:08.480><c> um</c><00:33:08.720><c> around</c><00:33:09.039><c> being</c>

00:33:09.269 --> 00:33:09.279 align:start position:0%
publicized incident um around being
 

00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:11.190 align:start position:0%
publicized incident um around being
filmed<00:33:09.840><c> for</c><00:33:10.000><c> example</c><00:33:10.320><c> and</c><00:33:10.480><c> so</c><00:33:10.640><c> a</c><00:33:10.799><c> consumer</c>

00:33:11.190 --> 00:33:11.200 align:start position:0%
filmed for example and so a consumer
 

00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:12.789 align:start position:0%
filmed for example and so a consumer
kind<00:33:11.360><c> of</c><00:33:11.440><c> engaging</c><00:33:11.760><c> in</c><00:33:11.840><c> filming</c><00:33:12.240><c> behavior</c><00:33:12.559><c> had</c>

00:33:12.789 --> 00:33:12.799 align:start position:0%
kind of engaging in filming behavior had
 

00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:15.509 align:start position:0%
kind of engaging in filming behavior had
been<00:33:12.960><c> really</c><00:33:13.279><c> triggering</c><00:33:13.679><c> and</c><00:33:13.840><c> and</c><00:33:14.640><c> um</c><00:33:15.360><c> uh</c>

00:33:15.509 --> 00:33:15.519 align:start position:0%
been really triggering and and um uh
 

00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:18.310 align:start position:0%
been really triggering and and um uh
problematic<00:33:16.240><c> for</c><00:33:16.480><c> the</c><00:33:16.720><c> staff</c><00:33:17.120><c> as</c><00:33:17.360><c> well.</c><00:33:17.679><c> So,</c>

00:33:18.310 --> 00:33:18.320 align:start position:0%
problematic for the staff as well. So,
 

00:33:18.320 --> 00:33:19.990 align:start position:0%
problematic for the staff as well. So,
you<00:33:18.480><c> got</c><00:33:18.640><c> to</c><00:33:18.799><c> kind</c><00:33:18.960><c> of</c><00:33:19.039><c> be</c><00:33:19.200><c> aware</c><00:33:19.519><c> of</c><00:33:19.679><c> both</c>

00:33:19.990 --> 00:33:20.000 align:start position:0%
you got to kind of be aware of both
 

00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:21.990 align:start position:0%
you got to kind of be aware of both
sides<00:33:20.559><c> of</c><00:33:20.799><c> the</c><00:33:20.960><c> equation</c><00:33:21.279><c> and</c><00:33:21.519><c> try</c><00:33:21.679><c> and</c><00:33:21.840><c> kind</c>

00:33:21.990 --> 00:33:22.000 align:start position:0%
sides of the equation and try and kind
 

00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:23.430 align:start position:0%
sides of the equation and try and kind
of<00:33:22.080><c> create</c><00:33:22.320><c> that</c><00:33:22.559><c> mutual</c><00:33:22.880><c> empathy</c><00:33:23.200><c> and</c>

00:33:23.430 --> 00:33:23.440 align:start position:0%
of create that mutual empathy and
 

00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:26.149 align:start position:0%
of create that mutual empathy and
understanding<00:33:24.720><c> um</c><00:33:25.120><c> to</c><00:33:25.360><c> be</c><00:33:25.519><c> able</c><00:33:25.760><c> to</c>

00:33:26.149 --> 00:33:26.159 align:start position:0%
understanding um to be able to
 

00:33:26.159 --> 00:33:28.789 align:start position:0%
understanding um to be able to
adequately<00:33:26.720><c> kind</c><00:33:26.880><c> of</c><00:33:26.960><c> balance</c><00:33:27.360><c> those</c><00:33:27.600><c> risks.</c>

00:33:28.789 --> 00:33:28.799 align:start position:0%
adequately kind of balance those risks.
 

00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:31.509 align:start position:0%
adequately kind of balance those risks.
Um,<00:33:29.360><c> and</c><00:33:29.679><c> certainly</c><00:33:30.000><c> the</c><00:33:30.240><c> the</c><00:33:30.960><c> time</c><00:33:31.200><c> to</c>

00:33:31.509 --> 00:33:31.519 align:start position:0%
Um, and certainly the the time to
 

00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:33.190 align:start position:0%
Um, and certainly the the time to
reflect<00:33:31.919><c> and</c><00:33:32.159><c> and</c><00:33:32.559><c> look</c><00:33:32.720><c> after</c><00:33:32.960><c> your</c><00:33:33.120><c> own</c>

00:33:33.190 --> 00:33:33.200 align:start position:0%
reflect and and look after your own
 

00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:35.509 align:start position:0%
reflect and and look after your own
well-being,<00:33:33.679><c> which</c><00:33:33.840><c> we're</c><00:33:34.080><c> going</c><00:33:34.159><c> to</c><00:33:34.320><c> get</c><00:33:34.399><c> to,</c>

00:33:35.509 --> 00:33:35.519 align:start position:0%
well-being, which we're going to get to,
 

00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:37.509 align:start position:0%
well-being, which we're going to get to,
um,<00:33:35.760><c> is</c><00:33:36.000><c> another</c><00:33:36.399><c> critical</c><00:33:36.799><c> aspect.</c><00:33:37.360><c> You</c>

00:33:37.509 --> 00:33:37.519 align:start position:0%
um, is another critical aspect. You
 

00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:41.830 align:start position:0%
um, is another critical aspect. You
know,<00:33:37.679><c> one</c><00:33:37.840><c> of</c><00:33:38.000><c> the</c><00:33:38.159><c> manifestations</c><00:33:39.039><c> of</c><00:33:40.480><c> um</c><00:33:41.600><c> of</c>

00:33:41.830 --> 00:33:41.840 align:start position:0%
know, one of the manifestations of um of
 

00:33:41.840 --> 00:33:43.430 align:start position:0%
know, one of the manifestations of um of
trauma<00:33:42.159><c> and</c><00:33:42.320><c> distress</c><00:33:42.640><c> is</c><00:33:42.880><c> is</c><00:33:43.120><c> often</c>

00:33:43.430 --> 00:33:43.440 align:start position:0%
trauma and distress is is often
 

00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:45.350 align:start position:0%
trauma and distress is is often
hypervigilance<00:33:44.240><c> as</c><00:33:44.480><c> well.</c><00:33:44.720><c> And</c><00:33:44.880><c> so</c><00:33:45.039><c> you</c><00:33:45.200><c> might</c>

00:33:45.350 --> 00:33:45.360 align:start position:0%
hypervigilance as well. And so you might
 

00:33:45.360 --> 00:33:47.669 align:start position:0%
hypervigilance as well. And so you might
find<00:33:45.600><c> if</c><00:33:45.840><c> you're</c><00:33:46.000><c> a</c><00:33:46.159><c> service</c><00:33:46.480><c> provider</c><00:33:47.519><c> um</c>

00:33:47.669 --> 00:33:47.679 align:start position:0%
find if you're a service provider um
 

00:33:47.679 --> 00:33:49.830 align:start position:0%
find if you're a service provider um
your<00:33:47.919><c> consumers</c><00:33:48.399><c> are</c><00:33:48.640><c> actually</c><00:33:49.120><c> often</c><00:33:49.519><c> much</c>

00:33:49.830 --> 00:33:49.840 align:start position:0%
your consumers are actually often much
 

00:33:49.840 --> 00:33:52.070 align:start position:0%
your consumers are actually often much
more<00:33:50.000><c> acutely</c><00:33:50.399><c> attuned</c><00:33:50.799><c> to</c><00:33:50.960><c> your</c><00:33:51.200><c> mental</c><00:33:51.840><c> uh</c>

00:33:52.070 --> 00:33:52.080 align:start position:0%
more acutely attuned to your mental uh
 

00:33:52.080 --> 00:33:53.990 align:start position:0%
more acutely attuned to your mental uh
state<00:33:52.399><c> and</c><00:33:52.640><c> and</c><00:33:52.960><c> wellbeing</c><00:33:53.440><c> than</c><00:33:53.600><c> than</c><00:33:53.840><c> you</c>

00:33:53.990 --> 00:33:54.000 align:start position:0%
state and and wellbeing than than you
 

00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:56.470 align:start position:0%
state and and wellbeing than than you
are<00:33:54.080><c> of</c><00:33:54.320><c> theirs</c><00:33:54.640><c> at</c><00:33:54.880><c> times.</c><00:33:55.600><c> Um</c><00:33:56.000><c> just</c><00:33:56.240><c> because</c>

00:33:56.470 --> 00:33:56.480 align:start position:0%
are of theirs at times. Um just because
 

00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:58.470 align:start position:0%
are of theirs at times. Um just because
as<00:33:56.720><c> a</c><00:33:57.200><c> survival</c><00:33:57.679><c> technique</c><00:33:58.159><c> sometimes</c>

00:33:58.470 --> 00:33:58.480 align:start position:0%
as a survival technique sometimes
 

00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:01.590 align:start position:0%
as a survival technique sometimes
they've<00:33:58.799><c> had</c><00:33:59.039><c> to</c><00:33:59.200><c> have</c><00:33:59.360><c> that</c><00:34:00.240><c> uh</c><00:34:00.399><c> real</c><00:34:00.720><c> acuity.</c>

00:34:01.590 --> 00:34:01.600 align:start position:0%
they've had to have that uh real acuity.
 

00:34:01.600 --> 00:34:05.509 align:start position:0%
they've had to have that uh real acuity.
Um<00:34:02.080><c> and</c><00:34:02.240><c> and</c><00:34:02.559><c> sometimes</c><00:34:02.960><c> it</c><00:34:03.200><c> can</c><00:34:03.360><c> be</c><00:34:04.159><c> um</c><00:34:05.360><c> you</c>

00:34:05.509 --> 00:34:05.519 align:start position:0%
Um and and sometimes it can be um you
 

00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:06.789 align:start position:0%
Um and and sometimes it can be um you
know<00:34:05.760><c> it</c><00:34:05.919><c> can</c><00:34:06.080><c> be</c><00:34:06.240><c> can</c><00:34:06.480><c> lead</c><00:34:06.640><c> to</c>

00:34:06.789 --> 00:34:06.799 align:start position:0%
know it can be can lead to
 

00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:09.669 align:start position:0%
know it can be can lead to
misinterpretations<00:34:07.679><c> as</c><00:34:07.840><c> well.</c><00:34:08.159><c> But</c><00:34:09.040><c> um</c><00:34:09.440><c> you</c>

00:34:09.669 --> 00:34:09.679 align:start position:0%
misinterpretations as well. But um you
 

00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:11.589 align:start position:0%
misinterpretations as well. But um you
know<00:34:10.000><c> that</c><00:34:10.159><c> that</c><00:34:10.480><c> acute</c><00:34:10.879><c> awareness</c><00:34:11.359><c> is</c>

00:34:11.589 --> 00:34:11.599 align:start position:0%
know that that acute awareness is
 

00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:14.230 align:start position:0%
know that that acute awareness is
something<00:34:12.560><c> um</c><00:34:12.960><c> that</c><00:34:13.200><c> that</c><00:34:13.599><c> you</c><00:34:13.760><c> have</c><00:34:13.919><c> to</c><00:34:14.079><c> be</c>

00:34:14.230 --> 00:34:14.240 align:start position:0%
something um that that you have to be
 

00:34:14.240 --> 00:34:17.349 align:start position:0%
something um that that you have to be
quite<00:34:14.639><c> aware</c><00:34:14.960><c> of.</c><00:34:16.079><c> Um</c><00:34:16.320><c> we've</c><00:34:16.639><c> got</c><00:34:16.720><c> a</c><00:34:16.879><c> few</c>

00:34:17.349 --> 00:34:17.359 align:start position:0%
quite aware of. Um we've got a few
 

00:34:17.359 --> 00:34:19.829 align:start position:0%
quite aware of. Um we've got a few
toolkits<00:34:18.480><c> a</c><00:34:18.720><c> few</c><00:34:18.879><c> aspects</c><00:34:19.200><c> of</c><00:34:19.280><c> the</c><00:34:19.440><c> toolkit</c>

00:34:19.829 --> 00:34:19.839 align:start position:0%
toolkits a few aspects of the toolkit
 

00:34:19.839 --> 00:34:21.109 align:start position:0%
toolkits a few aspects of the toolkit
that<00:34:20.079><c> kind</c><00:34:20.159><c> of</c><00:34:20.240><c> speak</c><00:34:20.399><c> to</c><00:34:20.560><c> this.</c><00:34:20.720><c> So</c><00:34:20.800><c> I</c><00:34:20.960><c> won't</c>

00:34:21.109 --> 00:34:21.119 align:start position:0%
that kind of speak to this. So I won't
 

00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:23.349 align:start position:0%
that kind of speak to this. So I won't
run<00:34:21.359><c> through</c><00:34:21.520><c> those</c><00:34:22.159><c> um</c><00:34:22.320><c> in</c><00:34:22.560><c> detail</c><00:34:22.960><c> but</c><00:34:23.119><c> it's</c>

00:34:23.349 --> 00:34:23.359 align:start position:0%
run through those um in detail but it's
 

00:34:23.359 --> 00:34:26.310 align:start position:0%
run through those um in detail but it's
worth<00:34:23.599><c> worth</c><00:34:24.320><c> um</c><00:34:24.480><c> checking</c><00:34:24.879><c> out.</c><00:34:25.839><c> We</c><00:34:26.000><c> jump</c><00:34:26.159><c> to</c>

00:34:26.310 --> 00:34:26.320 align:start position:0%
worth worth um checking out. We jump to
 

00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:28.069 align:start position:0%
worth worth um checking out. We jump to
the<00:34:26.560><c> next</c>

00:34:28.069 --> 00:34:28.079 align:start position:0%
the next
 

00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:33.109 align:start position:0%
the next
staff<00:34:28.399><c> then.</c><00:34:29.440><c> Um</c><00:34:30.480><c> so</c><00:34:30.639><c> to</c><00:34:30.879><c> helping</c><00:34:32.240><c> help</c><00:34:32.639><c> get</c><00:34:32.879><c> to</c>

00:34:33.109 --> 00:34:33.119 align:start position:0%
staff then. Um so to helping help get to
 

00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:35.030 align:start position:0%
staff then. Um so to helping help get to
that<00:34:33.280><c> that</c><00:34:33.760><c> kind</c><00:34:33.919><c> of</c><00:34:34.079><c> information</c><00:34:34.480><c> that</c><00:34:34.800><c> can</c>

00:34:35.030 --> 00:34:35.040 align:start position:0%
that that kind of information that can
 

00:34:35.040 --> 00:34:38.389 align:start position:0%
that that kind of information that can
help<00:34:35.599><c> have</c><00:34:36.000><c> a</c><00:34:36.320><c> plan</c><00:34:36.639><c> together,</c><00:34:37.919><c> it's</c><00:34:38.240><c> really</c>

00:34:38.389 --> 00:34:38.399 align:start position:0%
help have a plan together, it's really
 

00:34:38.399 --> 00:34:40.950 align:start position:0%
help have a plan together, it's really
important<00:34:38.639><c> to</c><00:34:38.879><c> move</c><00:34:39.119><c> past</c><00:34:40.159><c> um</c><00:34:40.399><c> assumptions</c>

00:34:40.950 --> 00:34:40.960 align:start position:0%
important to move past um assumptions
 

00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:43.349 align:start position:0%
important to move past um assumptions
that<00:34:41.280><c> we</c><00:34:41.440><c> might</c><00:34:41.839><c> hold</c><00:34:42.240><c> about</c><00:34:42.639><c> about</c><00:34:43.040><c> things.</c>

00:34:43.349 --> 00:34:43.359 align:start position:0%
that we might hold about about things.
 

00:34:43.359 --> 00:34:45.430 align:start position:0%
that we might hold about about things.
And<00:34:44.000><c> again</c><00:34:44.320><c> without</c><00:34:44.639><c> kind</c><00:34:44.800><c> of</c><00:34:44.879><c> going</c><00:34:45.119><c> into</c><00:34:45.359><c> the</c>

00:34:45.430 --> 00:34:45.440 align:start position:0%
And again without kind of going into the
 

00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:47.750 align:start position:0%
And again without kind of going into the
the<00:34:45.919><c> detail</c><00:34:46.159><c> of</c><00:34:46.399><c> each</c><00:34:46.560><c> and</c><00:34:46.800><c> every</c><00:34:47.280><c> uh</c><00:34:47.440><c> concept</c>

00:34:47.750 --> 00:34:47.760 align:start position:0%
the detail of each and every uh concept
 

00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:50.149 align:start position:0%
the detail of each and every uh concept
which<00:34:48.000><c> you</c><00:34:48.159><c> can</c><00:34:48.240><c> explore</c><00:34:48.560><c> in</c><00:34:48.720><c> the</c><00:34:48.879><c> toolkit</c><00:34:49.919><c> if</c>

00:34:50.149 --> 00:34:50.159 align:start position:0%
which you can explore in the toolkit if
 

00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:54.069 align:start position:0%
which you can explore in the toolkit if
I<00:34:50.320><c> just</c><00:34:50.480><c> pick</c><00:34:51.200><c> for</c><00:34:51.359><c> example</c><00:34:51.919><c> in</c><00:34:52.159><c> this</c><00:34:52.800><c> um</c><00:34:53.760><c> uh</c><00:34:53.839><c> in</c>

00:34:54.069 --> 00:34:54.079 align:start position:0%
I just pick for example in this um uh in
 

00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:56.790 align:start position:0%
I just pick for example in this um uh in
this<00:34:54.320><c> flower</c><00:34:54.639><c> of</c><00:34:54.879><c> the</c><00:34:55.200><c> impact</c><00:34:55.520><c> and</c><00:34:55.839><c> function</c>

00:34:56.790 --> 00:34:56.800 align:start position:0%
this flower of the impact and function
 

00:34:56.800 --> 00:34:57.910 align:start position:0%
this flower of the impact and function
you<00:34:56.960><c> know</c><00:34:57.040><c> that</c><00:34:57.280><c> can</c><00:34:57.359><c> be</c><00:34:57.520><c> a</c><00:34:57.680><c> really</c>

00:34:57.910 --> 00:34:57.920 align:start position:0%
you know that can be a really
 

00:34:57.920 --> 00:34:59.510 align:start position:0%
you know that can be a really
interesting<00:34:58.240><c> thing</c><00:34:58.400><c> to</c><00:34:58.640><c> dig</c><00:34:58.880><c> into</c><00:34:59.200><c> directly</c>

00:34:59.510 --> 00:34:59.520 align:start position:0%
interesting thing to dig into directly
 

00:34:59.520 --> 00:35:02.470 align:start position:0%
interesting thing to dig into directly
with<00:34:59.760><c> your</c><00:35:00.000><c> your</c><00:35:00.480><c> consumer.</c><00:35:01.040><c> So</c><00:35:01.280><c> how</c><00:35:01.520><c> how</c><00:35:01.760><c> does</c>

00:35:02.470 --> 00:35:02.480 align:start position:0%
with your your consumer. So how how does
 

00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:04.230 align:start position:0%
with your your consumer. So how how does
a<00:35:02.720><c> particular</c><00:35:03.040><c> risk</c><00:35:03.280><c> that</c><00:35:03.440><c> you've</c><00:35:03.839><c> identified</c>

00:35:04.230 --> 00:35:04.240 align:start position:0%
a particular risk that you've identified
 

00:35:04.240 --> 00:35:06.230 align:start position:0%
a particular risk that you've identified
together<00:35:05.119><c> um</c><00:35:05.280><c> how</c><00:35:05.440><c> does</c><00:35:05.599><c> it</c><00:35:05.760><c> play</c><00:35:05.920><c> out</c><00:35:06.079><c> in</c>

00:35:06.230 --> 00:35:06.240 align:start position:0%
together um how does it play out in
 

00:35:06.240 --> 00:35:08.790 align:start position:0%
together um how does it play out in
their<00:35:06.400><c> everyday</c><00:35:06.800><c> life?</c><00:35:08.000><c> um</c><00:35:08.160><c> and</c><00:35:08.320><c> not</c><00:35:08.480><c> just</c><00:35:08.640><c> the</c>

00:35:08.790 --> 00:35:08.800 align:start position:0%
their everyday life? um and not just the
 

00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:13.349 align:start position:0%
their everyday life? um and not just the
risk<00:35:09.040><c> itself</c><00:35:10.079><c> um</c><00:35:10.160><c> but</c><00:35:10.480><c> how</c><00:35:11.440><c> uh</c><00:35:12.640><c> how</c><00:35:12.960><c> addressing</c>

00:35:13.349 --> 00:35:13.359 align:start position:0%
risk itself um but how uh how addressing
 

00:35:13.359 --> 00:35:16.790 align:start position:0%
risk itself um but how uh how addressing
that<00:35:13.599><c> risk</c><00:35:13.839><c> in</c><00:35:14.079><c> different</c><00:35:14.400><c> ways</c><00:35:15.200><c> might</c><00:35:15.599><c> impact</c>

00:35:16.790 --> 00:35:16.800 align:start position:0%
that risk in different ways might impact
 

00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:19.430 align:start position:0%
that risk in different ways might impact
um<00:35:17.440><c> impact</c><00:35:17.839><c> their</c><00:35:18.079><c> functioning</c><00:35:18.480><c> day-to-day</c>

00:35:19.430 --> 00:35:19.440 align:start position:0%
um impact their functioning day-to-day
 

00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:21.589 align:start position:0%
um impact their functioning day-to-day
um<00:35:19.680><c> for</c><00:35:19.760><c> example</c><00:35:20.560><c> and</c><00:35:20.800><c> sometimes</c><00:35:21.200><c> they</c><00:35:21.359><c> can</c><00:35:21.520><c> be</c>

00:35:21.589 --> 00:35:21.599 align:start position:0%
um for example and sometimes they can be
 

00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:23.670 align:start position:0%
um for example and sometimes they can be
a<00:35:21.760><c> bit</c><00:35:21.839><c> of</c><00:35:21.920><c> a</c><00:35:22.079><c> double</c><00:35:22.320><c> bind</c><00:35:22.560><c> or</c><00:35:22.800><c> attention.</c><00:35:23.359><c> Um,</c>

00:35:23.670 --> 00:35:23.680 align:start position:0%
a bit of a double bind or attention. Um,
 

00:35:23.680 --> 00:35:25.910 align:start position:0%
a bit of a double bind or attention. Um,
so<00:35:23.920><c> for</c><00:35:24.000><c> example,</c><00:35:24.560><c> you</c><00:35:24.800><c> might</c><00:35:24.960><c> be</c><00:35:25.119><c> looking</c><00:35:25.280><c> at</c>

00:35:25.910 --> 00:35:25.920 align:start position:0%
so for example, you might be looking at
 

00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:27.430 align:start position:0%
so for example, you might be looking at
bringing<00:35:26.240><c> someone</c><00:35:26.480><c> into</c><00:35:26.800><c> hospital,</c><00:35:27.200><c> but</c>

00:35:27.430 --> 00:35:27.440 align:start position:0%
bringing someone into hospital, but
 

00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:30.710 align:start position:0%
bringing someone into hospital, but
their<00:35:27.680><c> main</c><00:35:28.720><c> um</c><00:35:29.119><c> distress</c><00:35:29.599><c> tolerance</c><00:35:30.320><c> kind</c><00:35:30.560><c> of</c>

00:35:30.710 --> 00:35:30.720 align:start position:0%
their main um distress tolerance kind of
 

00:35:30.720 --> 00:35:32.790 align:start position:0%
their main um distress tolerance kind of
thing<00:35:30.880><c> or</c><00:35:31.119><c> their</c><00:35:31.359><c> reason</c><00:35:31.599><c> for</c><00:35:31.760><c> living</c><00:35:32.000><c> is</c><00:35:32.240><c> is</c><00:35:32.640><c> a</c>

00:35:32.790 --> 00:35:32.800 align:start position:0%
thing or their reason for living is is a
 

00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:34.790 align:start position:0%
thing or their reason for living is is a
pet<00:35:33.200><c> or</c><00:35:33.440><c> is</c><00:35:33.680><c> is</c><00:35:34.000><c> someone</c><00:35:34.240><c> that</c><00:35:34.400><c> that</c><00:35:34.560><c> you're</c>

00:35:34.790 --> 00:35:34.800 align:start position:0%
pet or is is someone that that you're
 

00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:37.030 align:start position:0%
pet or is is someone that that you're
then<00:35:35.040><c> going</c><00:35:35.119><c> to</c><00:35:35.280><c> have</c><00:35:35.440><c> to</c><00:35:36.560><c> um</c><00:35:36.720><c> you're</c>

00:35:37.030 --> 00:35:37.040 align:start position:0%
then going to have to um you're
 

00:35:37.040 --> 00:35:39.109 align:start position:0%
then going to have to um you're
disconnecting<00:35:37.520><c> them</c><00:35:37.680><c> from</c><00:35:37.920><c> in</c><00:35:38.079><c> some</c><00:35:38.320><c> way.</c><00:35:38.960><c> And</c>

00:35:39.109 --> 00:35:39.119 align:start position:0%
disconnecting them from in some way. And
 

00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:43.030 align:start position:0%
disconnecting them from in some way. And
so<00:35:39.440><c> some</c><00:35:39.680><c> of</c><00:35:39.760><c> these</c><00:35:40.160><c> kinds</c><00:35:40.480><c> of</c><00:35:41.119><c> um</c><00:35:42.400><c> more</c><00:35:42.640><c> subtle</c>

00:35:43.030 --> 00:35:43.040 align:start position:0%
so some of these kinds of um more subtle
 

00:35:43.040 --> 00:35:44.550 align:start position:0%
so some of these kinds of um more subtle
concerns<00:35:43.359><c> might</c><00:35:43.599><c> be</c><00:35:43.760><c> things</c><00:35:43.839><c> that</c><00:35:44.000><c> a</c><00:35:44.160><c> consumer</c>

00:35:44.550 --> 00:35:44.560 align:start position:0%
concerns might be things that a consumer
 

00:35:44.560 --> 00:35:46.150 align:start position:0%
concerns might be things that a consumer
doesn't<00:35:44.800><c> share</c><00:35:45.119><c> necessarily</c><00:35:45.680><c> without</c><00:35:46.000><c> being</c>

00:35:46.150 --> 00:35:46.160 align:start position:0%
doesn't share necessarily without being
 

00:35:46.160 --> 00:35:48.630 align:start position:0%
doesn't share necessarily without being
explicitly<00:35:46.720><c> asked</c><00:35:47.680><c> um</c><00:35:47.760><c> but</c><00:35:48.000><c> can</c><00:35:48.240><c> be</c><00:35:48.400><c> really</c>

00:35:48.630 --> 00:35:48.640 align:start position:0%
explicitly asked um but can be really
 

00:35:48.640 --> 00:35:50.870 align:start position:0%
explicitly asked um but can be really
foundational<00:35:49.200><c> to</c><00:35:49.440><c> that</c><00:35:49.680><c> balance</c><00:35:50.000><c> of</c><00:35:50.160><c> of</c><00:35:50.640><c> risk</c>

00:35:50.870 --> 00:35:50.880 align:start position:0%
foundational to that balance of of risk
 

00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:52.310 align:start position:0%
foundational to that balance of of risk
and<00:35:51.040><c> safety.</c><00:35:51.599><c> Um,</c><00:35:51.839><c> and</c><00:35:52.000><c> there</c><00:35:52.160><c> can</c><00:35:52.240><c> be</c>

00:35:52.310 --> 00:35:52.320 align:start position:0%
and safety. Um, and there can be
 

00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:53.910 align:start position:0%
and safety. Um, and there can be
sometimes<00:35:52.640><c> some</c><00:35:52.800><c> ambivalence</c><00:35:53.440><c> around</c>

00:35:53.910 --> 00:35:53.920 align:start position:0%
sometimes some ambivalence around
 

00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:56.550 align:start position:0%
sometimes some ambivalence around
someone<00:35:54.320><c> wanting</c><00:35:54.640><c> a</c><00:35:55.200><c> a</c><00:35:55.520><c> type</c><00:35:55.680><c> of</c><00:35:56.160><c> help</c><00:35:56.320><c> and</c>

00:35:56.550 --> 00:35:56.560 align:start position:0%
someone wanting a a type of help and
 

00:35:56.560 --> 00:35:58.069 align:start position:0%
someone wanting a a type of help and
support,<00:35:56.800><c> but</c><00:35:57.119><c> knowing</c><00:35:57.359><c> that</c><00:35:57.520><c> in</c><00:35:57.680><c> other</c><00:35:57.920><c> ways</c>

00:35:58.069 --> 00:35:58.079 align:start position:0%
support, but knowing that in other ways
 

00:35:58.079 --> 00:35:59.750 align:start position:0%
support, but knowing that in other ways
it<00:35:58.400><c> sort</c><00:35:58.560><c> of</c><00:35:58.640><c> undermines</c><00:35:59.200><c> some</c><00:35:59.359><c> of</c><00:35:59.440><c> the</c><00:35:59.599><c> things</c>

00:35:59.750 --> 00:35:59.760 align:start position:0%
it sort of undermines some of the things
 

00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:02.950 align:start position:0%
it sort of undermines some of the things
that<00:36:00.560><c> um</c><00:36:00.640><c> that</c><00:36:00.960><c> can</c><00:36:01.200><c> be</c><00:36:01.359><c> helpful</c><00:36:01.680><c> and</c><00:36:02.640><c> uh</c><00:36:02.720><c> and</c>

00:36:02.950 --> 00:36:02.960 align:start position:0%
that um that can be helpful and uh and
 

00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:05.670 align:start position:0%
that um that can be helpful and uh and
grounding<00:36:03.440><c> for</c><00:36:03.680><c> them.</c><00:36:04.480><c> Um,</c><00:36:04.960><c> so</c><00:36:05.200><c> exploring</c>

00:36:05.670 --> 00:36:05.680 align:start position:0%
grounding for them. Um, so exploring
 

00:36:05.680 --> 00:36:07.910 align:start position:0%
grounding for them. Um, so exploring
that<00:36:06.079><c> and</c><00:36:06.400><c> being</c><00:36:06.560><c> in</c><00:36:06.720><c> a</c><00:36:07.040><c> being</c><00:36:07.280><c> able</c><00:36:07.440><c> to</c><00:36:07.599><c> be</c><00:36:07.760><c> in</c>

00:36:07.910 --> 00:36:07.920 align:start position:0%
that and being in a being able to be in
 

00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:09.829 align:start position:0%
that and being in a being able to be in
a<00:36:08.079><c> space</c><00:36:08.320><c> where</c><00:36:08.480><c> that</c><00:36:08.720><c> is</c><00:36:08.880><c> a</c><00:36:09.200><c> collaborative</c>

00:36:09.829 --> 00:36:09.839 align:start position:0%
a space where that is a collaborative
 

00:36:09.839 --> 00:36:13.990 align:start position:0%
a space where that is a collaborative
shared<00:36:10.880><c> um</c><00:36:11.839><c> sort</c><00:36:12.079><c> of</c><00:36:13.119><c> uh</c><00:36:13.359><c> experience</c><00:36:13.760><c> and</c>

00:36:13.990 --> 00:36:14.000 align:start position:0%
shared um sort of uh experience and
 

00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:15.670 align:start position:0%
shared um sort of uh experience and
knowledge<00:36:14.240><c> base</c><00:36:14.480><c> that</c><00:36:14.720><c> you</c><00:36:14.880><c> can</c><00:36:15.040><c> work</c><00:36:15.280><c> from</c><00:36:15.440><c> as</c>

00:36:15.670 --> 00:36:15.680 align:start position:0%
knowledge base that you can work from as
 

00:36:15.680 --> 00:36:19.270 align:start position:0%
knowledge base that you can work from as
a<00:36:15.839><c> foundation</c><00:36:16.880><c> can</c><00:36:17.119><c> be</c><00:36:17.280><c> really</c><00:36:17.599><c> helpful.</c>

00:36:19.270 --> 00:36:19.280 align:start position:0%
a foundation can be really helpful.
 

00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:22.069 align:start position:0%
a foundation can be really helpful.
Next<00:36:19.520><c> up,</c>

00:36:22.069 --> 00:36:22.079 align:start position:0%
Next up,
 

00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:25.190 align:start position:0%
Next up,
um,<00:36:22.320><c> so</c><00:36:22.560><c> returning</c><00:36:22.960><c> to</c><00:36:23.119><c> that</c><00:36:23.599><c> the</c>

00:36:25.190 --> 00:36:25.200 align:start position:0%
um, so returning to that the
 

00:36:25.200 --> 00:36:27.829 align:start position:0%
um, so returning to that the
Yes,<00:36:26.240><c> thanks</c><00:36:26.560><c> Katherine.</c><00:36:27.119><c> It's</c><00:36:27.280><c> it's</c><00:36:27.599><c> always</c>

00:36:27.829 --> 00:36:27.839 align:start position:0%
Yes, thanks Katherine. It's it's always
 

00:36:27.839 --> 00:36:31.349 align:start position:0%
Yes, thanks Katherine. It's it's always
a<00:36:28.000><c> gem</c><00:36:28.320><c> of</c><00:36:28.640><c> the</c><00:36:28.720><c> the</c><00:36:29.520><c> uh</c><00:36:29.680><c> one</c><00:36:29.920><c> that</c><00:36:30.160><c> does</c><00:36:30.320><c> the</c><00:36:31.280><c> uh</c>

00:36:31.349 --> 00:36:31.359 align:start position:0%
a gem of the the uh one that does the uh
 

00:36:31.359 --> 00:36:33.670 align:start position:0%
a gem of the the uh one that does the uh
the<00:36:31.599><c> keeping</c><00:36:31.839><c> the</c><00:36:32.000><c> pets</c><00:36:32.240><c> alive</c><00:36:32.480><c> and</c><00:36:32.720><c> well</c><00:36:33.359><c> um</c>

00:36:33.670 --> 00:36:33.680 align:start position:0%
the keeping the pets alive and well um
 

00:36:33.680 --> 00:36:35.750 align:start position:0%
the keeping the pets alive and well um
outside<00:36:34.000><c> of</c><00:36:34.160><c> the</c><00:36:34.400><c> in</c><00:36:34.560><c> during</c><00:36:34.800><c> the</c><00:36:34.960><c> impatient</c>

00:36:35.750 --> 00:36:35.760 align:start position:0%
outside of the in during the impatient
 

00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:40.310 align:start position:0%
outside of the in during the impatient
context.<00:36:37.119><c> Um</c><00:36:38.240><c> so</c><00:36:39.359><c> returning</c><00:36:39.760><c> to</c><00:36:39.839><c> that</c><00:36:40.000><c> that</c>

00:36:40.310 --> 00:36:40.320 align:start position:0%
context. Um so returning to that that
 

00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:42.790 align:start position:0%
context. Um so returning to that that
theme<00:36:40.640><c> I</c><00:36:40.800><c> mean</c><00:36:40.960><c> one</c><00:36:41.119><c> of</c><00:36:41.280><c> the</c>

00:36:42.790 --> 00:36:42.800 align:start position:0%
theme I mean one of the
 

00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:45.190 align:start position:0%
theme I mean one of the
recurrent<00:36:43.280><c> themes</c><00:36:43.760><c> when</c><00:36:44.000><c> we</c><00:36:44.240><c> do</c><00:36:44.560><c> codeesign</c>

00:36:45.190 --> 00:36:45.200 align:start position:0%
recurrent themes when we do codeesign
 

00:36:45.200 --> 00:36:48.950 align:start position:0%
recurrent themes when we do codeesign
work<00:36:46.320><c> um</c><00:36:46.720><c> really</c><00:36:47.040><c> is</c><00:36:47.440><c> that</c>

00:36:48.950 --> 00:36:48.960 align:start position:0%
work um really is that
 

00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:50.550 align:start position:0%
work um really is that
often<00:36:49.359><c> consumers</c><00:36:49.839><c> tell</c><00:36:50.000><c> us</c><00:36:50.160><c> that</c><00:36:50.320><c> they</c>

00:36:50.550 --> 00:36:50.560 align:start position:0%
often consumers tell us that they
 

00:36:50.560 --> 00:36:52.150 align:start position:0%
often consumers tell us that they
experience<00:36:51.040><c> stuff</c><00:36:51.440><c> as</c><00:36:51.760><c> being</c><00:36:51.920><c> quite</c>

00:36:52.150 --> 00:36:52.160 align:start position:0%
experience stuff as being quite
 

00:36:52.160 --> 00:36:55.750 align:start position:0%
experience stuff as being quite
traumatized.<00:36:53.440><c> Um</c><00:36:54.640><c> and</c><00:36:54.880><c> so</c><00:36:55.119><c> that</c><00:36:55.280><c> that</c>

00:36:55.750 --> 00:36:55.760 align:start position:0%
traumatized. Um and so that that
 

00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:57.589 align:start position:0%
traumatized. Um and so that that
importance<00:36:56.240><c> of</c><00:36:56.880><c> you</c><00:36:57.040><c> know</c><00:36:57.119><c> the</c><00:36:57.280><c> the</c>

00:36:57.589 --> 00:36:57.599 align:start position:0%
importance of you know the the
 

00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:00.950 align:start position:0%
importance of you know the the
self-reflection<00:36:58.400><c> the</c><00:36:58.560><c> the</c><00:36:58.880><c> well-being</c><00:37:00.240><c> um</c><00:37:00.640><c> as</c>

00:37:00.950 --> 00:37:00.960 align:start position:0%
self-reflection the the well-being um as
 

00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:03.750 align:start position:0%
self-reflection the the well-being um as
individuals<00:37:01.920><c> as</c><00:37:02.240><c> colleagues</c><00:37:02.960><c> as</c><00:37:03.200><c> leaders</c><00:37:03.520><c> of</c>

00:37:03.750 --> 00:37:03.760 align:start position:0%
individuals as colleagues as leaders of
 

00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:07.270 align:start position:0%
individuals as colleagues as leaders of
teams<00:37:04.560><c> becomes</c><00:37:05.040><c> really</c><00:37:05.280><c> important</c><00:37:06.400><c> important</c>

00:37:07.270 --> 00:37:07.280 align:start position:0%
teams becomes really important important
 

00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:10.150 align:start position:0%
teams becomes really important important
and<00:37:07.520><c> I</c><00:37:07.680><c> think</c><00:37:07.760><c> it</c><00:37:08.000><c> is</c><00:37:08.079><c> that</c><00:37:08.800><c> um</c><00:37:09.760><c> there's</c>

00:37:10.150 --> 00:37:10.160 align:start position:0%
and I think it is that um there's
 

00:37:10.160 --> 00:37:12.870 align:start position:0%
and I think it is that um there's
multiple<00:37:10.640><c> kind</c><00:37:10.880><c> of</c><00:37:11.760><c> um</c><00:37:11.920><c> risks</c><00:37:12.320><c> when</c><00:37:12.560><c> this</c><00:37:12.720><c> is</c>

00:37:12.870 --> 00:37:12.880 align:start position:0%
multiple kind of um risks when this is
 

00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:16.390 align:start position:0%
multiple kind of um risks when this is
not<00:37:13.520><c> um</c><00:37:14.560><c> uh</c><00:37:14.720><c> not</c><00:37:14.960><c> held</c><00:37:15.200><c> well</c><00:37:15.680><c> sometimes</c><00:37:16.000><c> it</c><00:37:16.240><c> can</c>

00:37:16.390 --> 00:37:16.400 align:start position:0%
not um uh not held well sometimes it can
 

00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:19.990 align:start position:0%
not um uh not held well sometimes it can
result<00:37:16.800><c> in</c><00:37:17.760><c> u</c><00:37:17.920><c> more</c><00:37:18.160><c> punitive</c><00:37:19.200><c> um</c><00:37:19.359><c> actions</c><00:37:19.760><c> or</c>

00:37:19.990 --> 00:37:20.000 align:start position:0%
result in u more punitive um actions or
 

00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:22.950 align:start position:0%
result in u more punitive um actions or
behaviors<00:37:21.280><c> um</c><00:37:21.520><c> sometimes</c><00:37:22.000><c> it</c><00:37:22.240><c> can</c><00:37:22.480><c> manifest</c>

00:37:22.950 --> 00:37:22.960 align:start position:0%
behaviors um sometimes it can manifest
 

00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:24.710 align:start position:0%
behaviors um sometimes it can manifest
just<00:37:23.200><c> as</c>

00:37:24.710 --> 00:37:24.720 align:start position:0%
just as
 

00:37:24.720 --> 00:37:26.390 align:start position:0%
just as
um

00:37:26.390 --> 00:37:26.400 align:start position:0%
um
 

00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:30.950 align:start position:0%
um
uh<00:37:27.680><c> well</c><00:37:28.000><c> as</c><00:37:28.160><c> that</c><00:37:28.320><c> that</c><00:37:29.280><c> um</c><00:37:30.160><c> difficulty</c><00:37:30.720><c> in</c>

00:37:30.950 --> 00:37:30.960 align:start position:0%
uh well as that that um difficulty in
 

00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:33.109 align:start position:0%
uh well as that that um difficulty in
being<00:37:31.119><c> able</c><00:37:31.359><c> to</c><00:37:31.680><c> hold</c><00:37:32.000><c> people's</c><00:37:32.400><c> stories.</c>

00:37:33.109 --> 00:37:33.119 align:start position:0%
being able to hold people's stories.
 

00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:36.630 align:start position:0%
being able to hold people's stories.
Often<00:37:33.599><c> people</c><00:37:33.920><c> who've</c><00:37:34.560><c> had</c><00:37:34.800><c> a</c><00:37:35.520><c> um</c><00:37:36.160><c> traumatic</c>

00:37:36.630 --> 00:37:36.640 align:start position:0%
Often people who've had a um traumatic
 

00:37:36.640 --> 00:37:40.630 align:start position:0%
Often people who've had a um traumatic
experience<00:37:37.760><c> relate</c><00:37:38.720><c> stories</c><00:37:39.520><c> um</c><00:37:39.599><c> to</c><00:37:39.839><c> me</c><00:37:40.000><c> or</c><00:37:40.400><c> or</c>

00:37:40.630 --> 00:37:40.640 align:start position:0%
experience relate stories um to me or or
 

00:37:40.640 --> 00:37:44.310 align:start position:0%
experience relate stories um to me or or
have<00:37:41.040><c> hold</c><00:37:41.280><c> fears</c><00:37:42.720><c> that</c><00:37:43.680><c> because</c><00:37:44.079><c> their</c>

00:37:44.310 --> 00:37:44.320 align:start position:0%
have hold fears that because their
 

00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:46.069 align:start position:0%
have hold fears that because their
memories<00:37:44.720><c> are</c><00:37:44.880><c> so</c><00:37:45.040><c> unmanageable</c><00:37:45.680><c> for</c><00:37:45.920><c> them</c>

00:37:46.069 --> 00:37:46.079 align:start position:0%
memories are so unmanageable for them
 

00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:48.870 align:start position:0%
memories are so unmanageable for them
that<00:37:46.320><c> if</c><00:37:46.560><c> they</c><00:37:47.119><c> kind</c><00:37:47.359><c> of</c><00:37:47.440><c> tell</c><00:37:47.760><c> or</c><00:37:48.079><c> share</c><00:37:48.560><c> that</c>

00:37:48.870 --> 00:37:48.880 align:start position:0%
that if they kind of tell or share that
 

00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:50.790 align:start position:0%
that if they kind of tell or share that
with<00:37:49.119><c> someone</c><00:37:49.440><c> else,</c><00:37:49.680><c> it</c><00:37:49.920><c> will</c><00:37:50.079><c> break</c><00:37:50.320><c> them</c><00:37:50.560><c> as</c>

00:37:50.790 --> 00:37:50.800 align:start position:0%
with someone else, it will break them as
 

00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:53.030 align:start position:0%
with someone else, it will break them as
well.<00:37:51.359><c> And</c><00:37:51.599><c> so</c><00:37:51.839><c> I</c><00:37:52.079><c> think</c><00:37:52.160><c> if</c><00:37:52.320><c> we're</c><00:37:52.560><c> also</c><00:37:52.880><c> not</c>

00:37:53.030 --> 00:37:53.040 align:start position:0%
well. And so I think if we're also not
 

00:37:53.040 --> 00:37:55.109 align:start position:0%
well. And so I think if we're also not
doing<00:37:53.280><c> well</c><00:37:53.520><c> and</c><00:37:53.760><c> we</c><00:37:53.920><c> burst</c><00:37:54.160><c> into</c><00:37:54.400><c> tears</c><00:37:54.800><c> or</c><00:37:54.960><c> we</c>

00:37:55.109 --> 00:37:55.119 align:start position:0%
doing well and we burst into tears or we
 

00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:57.270 align:start position:0%
doing well and we burst into tears or we
have<00:37:55.440><c> you</c><00:37:55.520><c> know</c><00:37:55.680><c> we</c><00:37:55.839><c> really</c><00:37:56.079><c> struggle</c><00:37:56.880><c> there</c>

00:37:57.270 --> 00:37:57.280 align:start position:0%
have you know we really struggle there
 

00:37:57.280 --> 00:37:59.829 align:start position:0%
have you know we really struggle there
there<00:37:57.680><c> can</c><00:37:57.920><c> be</c><00:37:58.079><c> that</c><00:37:58.560><c> reinforcement</c><00:37:59.440><c> of</c><00:37:59.680><c> some</c>

00:37:59.829 --> 00:37:59.839 align:start position:0%
there can be that reinforcement of some
 

00:37:59.839 --> 00:38:01.990 align:start position:0%
there can be that reinforcement of some
of<00:38:00.000><c> those</c><00:38:00.240><c> those</c><00:38:00.560><c> beliefs</c><00:38:01.040><c> and</c><00:38:01.599><c> look</c><00:38:01.839><c> we're</c>

00:38:01.990 --> 00:38:02.000 align:start position:0%
of those those beliefs and look we're
 

00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:03.589 align:start position:0%
of those those beliefs and look we're
all<00:38:02.160><c> human</c><00:38:02.480><c> sometimes</c><00:38:02.800><c> that</c><00:38:03.040><c> does</c><00:38:03.200><c> happen</c><00:38:03.440><c> and</c>

00:38:03.589 --> 00:38:03.599 align:start position:0%
all human sometimes that does happen and
 

00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:05.829 align:start position:0%
all human sometimes that does happen and
so<00:38:03.760><c> then</c><00:38:04.000><c> going</c><00:38:04.720><c> also</c><00:38:05.040><c> going</c><00:38:05.359><c> okay</c><00:38:05.599><c> this</c><00:38:05.760><c> is</c>

00:38:05.829 --> 00:38:05.839 align:start position:0%
so then going also going okay this is
 

00:38:05.839 --> 00:38:07.430 align:start position:0%
so then going also going okay this is
not<00:38:06.000><c> the</c><00:38:06.160><c> end</c><00:38:06.240><c> of</c><00:38:06.320><c> the</c><00:38:06.480><c> world.</c><00:38:06.800><c> Um</c><00:38:07.119><c> being</c><00:38:07.280><c> able</c>

00:38:07.430 --> 00:38:07.440 align:start position:0%
not the end of the world. Um being able
 

00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:09.990 align:start position:0%
not the end of the world. Um being able
to<00:38:07.599><c> model</c><00:38:08.560><c> kind</c><00:38:08.800><c> of</c><00:38:08.960><c> again</c><00:38:09.359><c> getting</c><00:38:09.599><c> back</c><00:38:09.760><c> into</c>

00:38:09.990 --> 00:38:10.000 align:start position:0%
to model kind of again getting back into
 

00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:11.750 align:start position:0%
to model kind of again getting back into
a<00:38:10.160><c> more</c><00:38:10.320><c> regulated</c><00:38:10.800><c> state</c><00:38:11.119><c> or</c><00:38:11.280><c> conferring</c>

00:38:11.750 --> 00:38:11.760 align:start position:0%
a more regulated state or conferring
 

00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:12.950 align:start position:0%
a more regulated state or conferring
with<00:38:11.920><c> your</c><00:38:12.079><c> colleague</c><00:38:12.400><c> and</c><00:38:12.640><c> getting</c>

00:38:12.950 --> 00:38:12.960 align:start position:0%
with your colleague and getting
 

00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:14.950 align:start position:0%
with your colleague and getting
supervision<00:38:13.760><c> and</c><00:38:14.079><c> being</c><00:38:14.240><c> able</c><00:38:14.400><c> to</c><00:38:14.560><c> reexplore</c>

00:38:14.950 --> 00:38:14.960 align:start position:0%
supervision and being able to reexplore
 

00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:17.349 align:start position:0%
supervision and being able to reexplore
that<00:38:15.200><c> with</c><00:38:15.359><c> that</c><00:38:15.520><c> individual</c><00:38:16.079><c> saying</c><00:38:16.400><c> that</c><00:38:17.200><c> um</c>

00:38:17.349 --> 00:38:17.359 align:start position:0%
that with that individual saying that um
 

00:38:17.359 --> 00:38:22.550 align:start position:0%
that with that individual saying that um
can<00:38:17.680><c> also</c><00:38:18.720><c> be</c><00:38:18.960><c> a</c><00:38:19.839><c> um</c><00:38:20.800><c> be</c><00:38:20.960><c> a</c><00:38:21.200><c> healing</c><00:38:21.520><c> and</c><00:38:21.760><c> an</c><00:38:22.000><c> opp</c>

00:38:22.550 --> 00:38:22.560 align:start position:0%
can also be a um be a healing and an opp
 

00:38:22.560 --> 00:38:25.190 align:start position:0%
can also be a um be a healing and an opp
uh<00:38:22.880><c> opportunity</c><00:38:23.440><c> and</c><00:38:23.680><c> a</c><00:38:24.000><c> and</c><00:38:24.320><c> an</c><00:38:24.640><c> opportunity</c>

00:38:25.190 --> 00:38:25.200 align:start position:0%
uh opportunity and a and an opportunity
 

00:38:25.200 --> 00:38:27.910 align:start position:0%
uh opportunity and a and an opportunity
to<00:38:25.520><c> also</c><00:38:25.920><c> model</c><00:38:26.640><c> um</c><00:38:26.800><c> sort</c><00:38:26.960><c> of</c><00:38:27.119><c> selfcare</c><00:38:27.680><c> and</c>

00:38:27.910 --> 00:38:27.920 align:start position:0%
to also model um sort of selfcare and
 

00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:29.510 align:start position:0%
to also model um sort of selfcare and
strategizing.

00:38:29.510 --> 00:38:29.520 align:start position:0%
strategizing.
 

00:38:29.520 --> 00:38:31.030 align:start position:0%
strategizing.
Um

00:38:31.030 --> 00:38:31.040 align:start position:0%
Um
 

00:38:31.040 --> 00:38:33.430 align:start position:0%
Um
so<00:38:31.200><c> I</c><00:38:31.440><c> guess</c><00:38:31.760><c> you</c><00:38:31.920><c> know</c><00:38:32.160><c> being</c><00:38:32.400><c> human</c><00:38:33.119><c> looking</c>

00:38:33.430 --> 00:38:33.440 align:start position:0%
so I guess you know being human looking
 

00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:37.270 align:start position:0%
so I guess you know being human looking
after<00:38:33.760><c> yourself</c><00:38:34.720><c> um</c><00:38:35.200><c> and</c><00:38:35.920><c> uh</c><00:38:36.320><c> and</c><00:38:36.560><c> also</c><00:38:36.880><c> not</c>

00:38:37.270 --> 00:38:37.280 align:start position:0%
after yourself um and uh and also not
 

00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:39.430 align:start position:0%
after yourself um and uh and also not
worrying<00:38:37.599><c> if</c><00:38:37.839><c> we</c><00:38:38.160><c> don't</c><00:38:38.400><c> get</c><00:38:38.560><c> this</c><00:38:38.880><c> land</c><00:38:39.200><c> this</c>

00:38:39.430 --> 00:38:39.440 align:start position:0%
worrying if we don't get this land this
 

00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:42.069 align:start position:0%
worrying if we don't get this land this
perfectly<00:38:40.079><c> each</c><00:38:40.400><c> time</c><00:38:41.280><c> um</c><00:38:41.440><c> are</c><00:38:41.760><c> all</c>

00:38:42.069 --> 00:38:42.079 align:start position:0%
perfectly each time um are all
 

00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:45.990 align:start position:0%
perfectly each time um are all
interconnected<00:38:42.720><c> and</c><00:38:43.040><c> important.</c><00:38:44.480><c> Um</c><00:38:45.440><c> it</c><00:38:45.839><c> is</c>

00:38:45.990 --> 00:38:46.000 align:start position:0%
interconnected and important. Um it is
 

00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:48.790 align:start position:0%
interconnected and important. Um it is
important<00:38:46.320><c> though</c><00:38:46.560><c> that</c><00:38:46.800><c> it</c><00:38:47.119><c> is</c><00:38:48.000><c> um</c><00:38:48.400><c> not</c><00:38:48.640><c> just</c>

00:38:48.790 --> 00:38:48.800 align:start position:0%
important though that it is um not just
 

00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:50.790 align:start position:0%
important though that it is um not just
an<00:38:49.040><c> individual</c><00:38:49.680><c> approach.</c><00:38:50.000><c> So</c><00:38:50.240><c> some</c><00:38:50.400><c> of</c><00:38:50.560><c> those</c>

00:38:50.790 --> 00:38:50.800 align:start position:0%
an individual approach. So some of those
 

00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:52.950 align:start position:0%
an individual approach. So some of those
kind<00:38:50.960><c> of</c><00:38:51.520><c> key</c><00:38:51.760><c> drivers</c><00:38:52.160><c> around</c><00:38:52.400><c> team</c><00:38:52.640><c> culture</c>

00:38:52.950 --> 00:38:52.960 align:start position:0%
kind of key drivers around team culture
 

00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:55.109 align:start position:0%
kind of key drivers around team culture
and<00:38:53.200><c> leadership</c><00:38:54.000><c> um</c><00:38:54.160><c> having</c><00:38:54.320><c> that</c><00:38:54.560><c> clarity</c><00:38:54.880><c> on</c>

00:38:55.109 --> 00:38:55.119 align:start position:0%
and leadership um having that clarity on
 

00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:57.510 align:start position:0%
and leadership um having that clarity on
roles<00:38:55.440><c> and</c><00:38:55.680><c> responsibilities</c><00:38:57.119><c> uh</c><00:38:57.200><c> and</c>

00:38:57.510 --> 00:38:57.520 align:start position:0%
roles and responsibilities uh and
 

00:38:57.520 --> 00:38:59.430 align:start position:0%
roles and responsibilities uh and
feeling<00:38:57.760><c> empowered</c><00:38:58.160><c> and</c><00:38:58.400><c> skilled</c><00:38:59.040><c> um</c><00:38:59.200><c> to</c>

00:38:59.430 --> 00:38:59.440 align:start position:0%
feeling empowered and skilled um to
 

00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:02.069 align:start position:0%
feeling empowered and skilled um to
handle<00:38:59.760><c> situations</c><00:39:00.320><c> are</c><00:39:00.560><c> all</c><00:39:01.119><c> um</c><00:39:01.760><c> kind</c><00:39:01.920><c> of</c>

00:39:02.069 --> 00:39:02.079 align:start position:0%
handle situations are all um kind of
 

00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:05.030 align:start position:0%
handle situations are all um kind of
important<00:39:02.480><c> in</c><00:39:02.800><c> enabling</c><00:39:04.079><c> uh</c><00:39:04.240><c> that</c><00:39:04.480><c> well-being</c>

00:39:05.030 --> 00:39:05.040 align:start position:0%
important in enabling uh that well-being
 

00:39:05.040 --> 00:39:06.150 align:start position:0%
important in enabling uh that well-being
to<00:39:05.280><c> be</c><00:39:05.359><c> able</c><00:39:05.520><c> to</c><00:39:05.680><c> practice</c><00:39:05.920><c> in</c><00:39:06.079><c> a</c>

00:39:06.150 --> 00:39:06.160 align:start position:0%
to be able to practice in a
 

00:39:06.160 --> 00:39:08.630 align:start position:0%
to be able to practice in a
trauma-informed<00:39:06.880><c> way.</c>

00:39:08.630 --> 00:39:08.640 align:start position:0%
trauma-informed way.
 

00:39:08.640 --> 00:39:10.870 align:start position:0%
trauma-informed way.
Next<00:39:08.880><c> up,</c>

00:39:10.870 --> 00:39:10.880 align:start position:0%
Next up,
 

00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:13.190 align:start position:0%
Next up,
thank<00:39:11.119><c> you.</c><00:39:11.760><c> and</c><00:39:12.240><c> and</c><00:39:12.480><c> boundaries</c><00:39:12.880><c> are</c><00:39:13.040><c> the</c>

00:39:13.190 --> 00:39:13.200 align:start position:0%
thank you. and and boundaries are the
 

00:39:13.200 --> 00:39:15.190 align:start position:0%
thank you. and and boundaries are the
other<00:39:13.440><c> key</c><00:39:14.079><c> um</c><00:39:14.240><c> really</c><00:39:14.560><c> setting</c><00:39:14.880><c> setting</c>

00:39:15.190 --> 00:39:15.200 align:start position:0%
other key um really setting setting
 

00:39:15.200 --> 00:39:18.310 align:start position:0%
other key um really setting setting
healthy<00:39:15.440><c> boundaries</c><00:39:16.160><c> both</c><00:39:16.480><c> with</c><00:39:17.119><c> um</c><00:39:17.359><c> clients</c>

00:39:18.310 --> 00:39:18.320 align:start position:0%
healthy boundaries both with um clients
 

00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:21.990 align:start position:0%
healthy boundaries both with um clients
uh<00:39:18.480><c> and</c><00:39:19.520><c> uh</c><00:39:19.599><c> and</c><00:39:19.839><c> in</c><00:39:20.079><c> teams</c><00:39:20.400><c> themselves.</c><00:39:21.520><c> And</c><00:39:21.760><c> I</c>

00:39:21.990 --> 00:39:22.000 align:start position:0%
uh and uh and in teams themselves. And I
 

00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:24.550 align:start position:0%
uh and uh and in teams themselves. And I
guess<00:39:22.160><c> the</c><00:39:22.400><c> the</c><00:39:22.720><c> key</c><00:39:22.960><c> tips</c><00:39:23.359><c> there</c><00:39:23.680><c> I'd</c><00:39:23.920><c> put</c><00:39:24.400><c> uh</c>

00:39:24.550 --> 00:39:24.560 align:start position:0%
guess the the key tips there I'd put uh
 

00:39:24.560 --> 00:39:26.870 align:start position:0%
guess the the key tips there I'd put uh
I'd<00:39:24.880><c> say</c><00:39:25.040><c> is</c><00:39:25.280><c> that</c><00:39:25.760><c> it's</c><00:39:26.000><c> really</c><00:39:26.240><c> important</c><00:39:26.560><c> to</c>

00:39:26.870 --> 00:39:26.880 align:start position:0%
I'd say is that it's really important to
 

00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:31.829 align:start position:0%
I'd say is that it's really important to
be<00:39:28.160><c> um</c><00:39:28.880><c> on</c><00:39:29.119><c> a</c><00:39:29.280><c> similar</c><00:39:29.599><c> page</c><00:39:30.000><c> with</c><00:39:31.119><c> um</c><00:39:31.599><c> with</c>

00:39:31.829 --> 00:39:31.839 align:start position:0%
be um on a similar page with um with
 

00:39:31.839 --> 00:39:34.310 align:start position:0%
be um on a similar page with um with
your<00:39:32.000><c> team</c><00:39:32.240><c> around</c><00:39:32.560><c> some</c><00:39:32.800><c> of</c><00:39:32.880><c> these</c><00:39:33.119><c> things.</c>

00:39:34.310 --> 00:39:34.320 align:start position:0%
your team around some of these things.
 

00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:37.910 align:start position:0%
your team around some of these things.
um<00:39:34.640><c> as</c><00:39:34.880><c> as</c><00:39:35.359><c> flagged</c><00:39:36.000><c> kind</c><00:39:36.240><c> of</c><00:39:36.400><c> earlier,</c><00:39:36.880><c> often</c>

00:39:37.910 --> 00:39:37.920 align:start position:0%
um as as flagged kind of earlier, often
 

00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:41.270 align:start position:0%
um as as flagged kind of earlier, often
um<00:39:38.160><c> some</c><00:39:38.400><c> of</c><00:39:38.480><c> our</c><00:39:38.880><c> approaches</c><00:39:39.440><c> to</c><00:39:40.160><c> to</c><00:39:40.560><c> risk</c><00:39:41.040><c> can</c>

00:39:41.270 --> 00:39:41.280 align:start position:0%
um some of our approaches to to risk can
 

00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:42.950 align:start position:0%
um some of our approaches to to risk can
be<00:39:41.440><c> kind</c><00:39:41.680><c> of</c><00:39:41.760><c> more</c><00:39:41.920><c> individual</c><00:39:42.400><c> personality</c>

00:39:42.950 --> 00:39:42.960 align:start position:0%
be kind of more individual personality
 

00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:46.470 align:start position:0%
be kind of more individual personality
traits.<00:39:43.599><c> Um</c><00:39:44.640><c> and</c><00:39:45.520><c> uh</c><00:39:45.599><c> and</c><00:39:45.760><c> and</c><00:39:46.079><c> reflective</c>

00:39:46.470 --> 00:39:46.480 align:start position:0%
traits. Um and uh and and reflective
 

00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:48.550 align:start position:0%
traits. Um and uh and and reflective
obviously<00:39:46.800><c> of</c><00:39:46.960><c> our</c><00:39:47.119><c> own</c><00:39:47.359><c> kind</c><00:39:47.520><c> of</c><00:39:48.000><c> um</c><00:39:48.240><c> training</c>

00:39:48.550 --> 00:39:48.560 align:start position:0%
obviously of our own kind of um training
 

00:39:48.560 --> 00:39:50.470 align:start position:0%
obviously of our own kind of um training
background<00:39:49.040><c> or</c><00:39:49.280><c> clinical</c><00:39:49.680><c> experience</c><00:39:50.240><c> and</c>

00:39:50.470 --> 00:39:50.480 align:start position:0%
background or clinical experience and
 

00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:53.750 align:start position:0%
background or clinical experience and
lived<00:39:50.800><c> experience.</c><00:39:51.839><c> Um</c><00:39:52.560><c> so</c><00:39:53.040><c> being</c><00:39:53.440><c> having</c>

00:39:53.750 --> 00:39:53.760 align:start position:0%
lived experience. Um so being having
 

00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:56.790 align:start position:0%
lived experience. Um so being having
those<00:39:54.000><c> reflective</c><00:39:54.720><c> spaces</c><00:39:55.280><c> to</c>

00:39:56.790 --> 00:39:56.800 align:start position:0%
those reflective spaces to
 

00:39:56.800 --> 00:39:59.589 align:start position:0%
those reflective spaces to
be<00:39:56.960><c> on</c><00:39:57.200><c> a</c><00:39:57.359><c> similar</c><00:39:57.680><c> page</c><00:39:58.079><c> as</c><00:39:58.320><c> a</c><00:39:58.480><c> team.</c><00:39:59.200><c> Uh</c><00:39:59.440><c> and</c>

00:39:59.589 --> 00:39:59.599 align:start position:0%
be on a similar page as a team. Uh and
 

00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:01.990 align:start position:0%
be on a similar page as a team. Uh and
then<00:39:59.839><c> being</c><00:40:00.079><c> able</c><00:40:00.320><c> to</c>

00:40:01.990 --> 00:40:02.000 align:start position:0%
then being able to
 

00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:05.190 align:start position:0%
then being able to
um<00:40:02.880><c> convey</c><00:40:03.520><c> and</c>

00:40:05.190 --> 00:40:05.200 align:start position:0%
um convey and
 

00:40:05.200 --> 00:40:07.990 align:start position:0%
um convey and
uh<00:40:06.240><c> engage</c><00:40:06.640><c> in</c><00:40:06.800><c> a</c><00:40:07.040><c> kind</c><00:40:07.200><c> of</c><00:40:07.359><c> shared</c>

00:40:07.990 --> 00:40:08.000 align:start position:0%
uh engage in a kind of shared
 

00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:10.470 align:start position:0%
uh engage in a kind of shared
understanding<00:40:08.560><c> with</c><00:40:08.800><c> the</c><00:40:09.040><c> clients</c><00:40:10.079><c> um</c><00:40:10.240><c> are</c>

00:40:10.470 --> 00:40:10.480 align:start position:0%
understanding with the clients um are
 

00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:12.630 align:start position:0%
understanding with the clients um are
both<00:40:10.720><c> really</c><00:40:11.040><c> important.</c><00:40:11.599><c> U</c><00:40:11.920><c> boundaries</c><00:40:12.400><c> work</c>

00:40:12.630 --> 00:40:12.640 align:start position:0%
both really important. U boundaries work
 

00:40:12.640 --> 00:40:16.230 align:start position:0%
both really important. U boundaries work
best<00:40:12.960><c> when</c><00:40:14.000><c> all</c><00:40:14.320><c> parties</c><00:40:14.720><c> are</c><00:40:14.960><c> in</c><00:40:15.119><c> a</c><00:40:15.680><c> uh</c><00:40:15.920><c> space</c>

00:40:16.230 --> 00:40:16.240 align:start position:0%
best when all parties are in a uh space
 

00:40:16.240 --> 00:40:17.670 align:start position:0%
best when all parties are in a uh space
where<00:40:16.480><c> they</c><00:40:16.720><c> are</c><00:40:16.960><c> sort</c><00:40:17.200><c> of</c><00:40:17.280><c> able</c><00:40:17.520><c> to</c>

00:40:17.670 --> 00:40:17.680 align:start position:0%
where they are sort of able to
 

00:40:17.680 --> 00:40:20.230 align:start position:0%
where they are sort of able to
co-regulate<00:40:18.800><c> um</c><00:40:19.040><c> have</c><00:40:19.200><c> a</c><00:40:19.440><c> foundational</c><00:40:20.000><c> kind</c>

00:40:20.230 --> 00:40:20.240 align:start position:0%
co-regulate um have a foundational kind
 

00:40:20.240 --> 00:40:23.190 align:start position:0%
co-regulate um have a foundational kind
of<00:40:21.119><c> um</c><00:40:21.599><c> you</c><00:40:21.760><c> know</c><00:40:22.000><c> allow</c><00:40:22.480><c> alliance</c><00:40:22.880><c> or</c>

00:40:23.190 --> 00:40:23.200 align:start position:0%
of um you know allow alliance or
 

00:40:23.200 --> 00:40:25.349 align:start position:0%
of um you know allow alliance or
relationship<00:40:24.079><c> uh</c><00:40:24.160><c> with</c><00:40:24.400><c> each</c><00:40:24.640><c> other</c><00:40:25.040><c> warmth</c>

00:40:25.349 --> 00:40:25.359 align:start position:0%
relationship uh with each other warmth
 

00:40:25.359 --> 00:40:28.390 align:start position:0%
relationship uh with each other warmth
and<00:40:25.599><c> respect</c><00:40:26.320><c> etc.</c><00:40:27.119><c> Um</c><00:40:27.440><c> so</c><00:40:27.599><c> that</c><00:40:27.839><c> whole</c><00:40:28.160><c> sort</c>

00:40:28.390 --> 00:40:28.400 align:start position:0%
and respect etc. Um so that whole sort
 

00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:30.470 align:start position:0%
and respect etc. Um so that whole sort
of<00:40:28.480><c> relate,</c><00:40:28.960><c> regulate</c><00:40:29.359><c> and</c><00:40:29.599><c> respond</c><00:40:30.079><c> kind</c><00:40:30.320><c> of</c>

00:40:30.470 --> 00:40:30.480 align:start position:0%
of relate, regulate and respond kind of
 

00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:33.670 align:start position:0%
of relate, regulate and respond kind of
context<00:40:31.520><c> uh</c><00:40:31.680><c> really</c><00:40:32.000><c> means</c><00:40:32.320><c> that</c><00:40:33.359><c> your</c>

00:40:33.670 --> 00:40:33.680 align:start position:0%
context uh really means that your
 

00:40:33.680 --> 00:40:36.069 align:start position:0%
context uh really means that your
boundaries<00:40:34.079><c> are</c><00:40:34.320><c> likely</c><00:40:34.640><c> to</c><00:40:34.800><c> be</c><00:40:35.359><c> set</c><00:40:35.599><c> in</c><00:40:35.839><c> a</c>

00:40:36.069 --> 00:40:36.079 align:start position:0%
boundaries are likely to be set in a
 

00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:38.870 align:start position:0%
boundaries are likely to be set in a
space<00:40:36.480><c> where</c><00:40:37.440><c> um</c><00:40:37.680><c> they're</c><00:40:38.000><c> both</c><00:40:38.320><c> respected</c>

00:40:38.870 --> 00:40:38.880 align:start position:0%
space where um they're both respected
 

00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:42.710 align:start position:0%
space where um they're both respected
and<00:40:39.040><c> and</c><00:40:39.359><c> not</c><00:40:39.599><c> seen</c><00:40:39.839><c> as</c><00:40:40.079><c> a</c><00:40:41.040><c> um</c><00:40:41.359><c> as</c><00:40:41.599><c> a</c><00:40:42.079><c> punitive</c>

00:40:42.710 --> 00:40:42.720 align:start position:0%
and and not seen as a um as a punitive
 

00:40:42.720 --> 00:40:47.990 align:start position:0%
and and not seen as a um as a punitive
or<00:40:42.960><c> a</c><00:40:43.839><c> um</c><00:40:44.560><c> kind</c><00:40:44.720><c> of</c><00:40:44.880><c> othering</c><00:40:45.280><c> or</c><00:40:46.000><c> or</c><00:40:46.240><c> a</c><00:40:47.520><c> um</c>

00:40:47.990 --> 00:40:48.000 align:start position:0%
or a um kind of othering or or a um
 

00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:51.109 align:start position:0%
or a um kind of othering or or a um
disempowering<00:40:49.359><c> um</c><00:40:49.599><c> kind</c><00:40:49.760><c> of</c><00:40:49.920><c> approach.</c><00:40:50.720><c> Um,</c>

00:40:51.109 --> 00:40:51.119 align:start position:0%
disempowering um kind of approach. Um,
 

00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:53.829 align:start position:0%
disempowering um kind of approach. Um,
so<00:40:51.359><c> always</c><00:40:51.680><c> kind</c><00:40:51.839><c> of</c><00:40:52.000><c> trying</c><00:40:52.320><c> your</c><00:40:52.640><c> best</c><00:40:52.880><c> to</c>

00:40:53.829 --> 00:40:53.839 align:start position:0%
so always kind of trying your best to
 

00:40:53.839 --> 00:40:57.190 align:start position:0%
so always kind of trying your best to
establish<00:40:54.400><c> those</c><00:40:54.640><c> boundaries</c><00:40:55.200><c> early</c><00:40:55.680><c> in</c><00:40:56.000><c> a</c><00:40:56.880><c> um</c>

00:40:57.190 --> 00:40:57.200 align:start position:0%
establish those boundaries early in a um
 

00:40:57.200 --> 00:40:59.589 align:start position:0%
establish those boundaries early in a um
in<00:40:57.440><c> an</c><00:40:57.680><c> encounter</c><00:40:58.160><c> or</c><00:40:58.400><c> in</c><00:40:58.560><c> a</c><00:40:59.119><c> uh</c><00:40:59.280><c> in</c><00:40:59.440><c> a</c>

00:40:59.589 --> 00:40:59.599 align:start position:0%
in an encounter or in a uh in a
 

00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:01.910 align:start position:0%
in an encounter or in a uh in a
therapeutic<00:41:00.240><c> work</c><00:41:00.400><c> with</c><00:41:00.560><c> a</c><00:41:00.800><c> client</c><00:41:01.280><c> is</c><00:41:01.599><c> really</c>

00:41:01.910 --> 00:41:01.920 align:start position:0%
therapeutic work with a client is really
 

00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:04.390 align:start position:0%
therapeutic work with a client is really
important.

00:41:04.390 --> 00:41:04.400 align:start position:0%
important.
 

00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:06.470 align:start position:0%
important.
All<00:41:04.480><c> right.</c><00:41:05.040><c> Um</c><00:41:05.440><c> I</c><00:41:05.680><c> think</c><00:41:05.839><c> that's</c><00:41:06.079><c> about</c><00:41:06.240><c> it</c>

00:41:06.470 --> 00:41:06.480 align:start position:0%
All right. Um I think that's about it
 

00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:09.510 align:start position:0%
All right. Um I think that's about it
for<00:41:07.040><c> the</c><00:41:07.200><c> the</c><00:41:07.680><c> slides.</c><00:41:08.079><c> We'll</c><00:41:08.319><c> look</c><00:41:09.119><c> uh</c><00:41:09.280><c> shift</c>

00:41:09.510 --> 00:41:09.520 align:start position:0%
for the the slides. We'll look uh shift
 

00:41:09.520 --> 00:41:17.430 align:start position:0%
for the the slides. We'll look uh shift
over<00:41:09.760><c> to</c><00:41:10.319><c> Q&amp;A</c><00:41:10.960><c> now.</c><00:41:11.599><c> Thank</c><00:41:11.760><c> you</c><00:41:11.920><c> so</c><00:41:12.160><c> much.</c>

00:41:17.430 --> 00:41:17.440 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:20.870 align:start position:0%
 
Thank<00:41:17.680><c> you</c><00:41:18.000><c> Rahul</c><00:41:19.359><c> for</c><00:41:19.760><c> your</c><00:41:20.079><c> presentation.</c>

00:41:20.870 --> 00:41:20.880 align:start position:0%
Thank you Rahul for your presentation.
 

00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:23.510 align:start position:0%
Thank you Rahul for your presentation.
Thank<00:41:21.040><c> you</c><00:41:21.280><c> Crisel.</c><00:41:22.400><c> Uh</c><00:41:22.720><c> so</c><00:41:22.880><c> we</c><00:41:23.119><c> had</c><00:41:23.280><c> a</c><00:41:23.440><c> few</c>

00:41:23.510 --> 00:41:23.520 align:start position:0%
Thank you Crisel. Uh so we had a few
 

00:41:23.520 --> 00:41:26.150 align:start position:0%
Thank you Crisel. Uh so we had a few
question<00:41:24.400><c> did</c><00:41:24.640><c> you</c><00:41:25.200><c> were</c><00:41:25.359><c> there</c><00:41:25.599><c> some</c><00:41:25.839><c> that</c>

00:41:26.150 --> 00:41:26.160 align:start position:0%
question did you were there some that
 

00:41:26.160 --> 00:41:28.710 align:start position:0%
question did you were there some that
came<00:41:26.400><c> out</c><00:41:27.119><c> as</c><00:41:27.440><c> monitoring</c><00:41:27.920><c> the</c><00:41:28.240><c> the</c>

00:41:28.710 --> 00:41:28.720 align:start position:0%
came out as monitoring the the
 

00:41:28.720 --> 00:41:37.829 align:start position:0%
came out as monitoring the the
discussion<00:41:29.200><c> that</c><00:41:29.520><c> we</c><00:41:29.920><c> we</c><00:41:30.400><c> should</c><00:41:30.720><c> address.</c>

00:41:37.829 --> 00:41:37.839 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:41:37.839 --> 00:41:39.430 align:start position:0%
 
Um

00:41:39.430 --> 00:41:39.440 align:start position:0%
Um
 

00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:42.550 align:start position:0%
Um
maybe<00:41:39.839><c> while</c><00:41:40.319><c> Aken</c><00:41:41.040><c> gets</c><00:41:41.520><c> back</c><00:41:41.839><c> to</c><00:41:42.079><c> us,</c><00:41:42.400><c> I</c>

00:41:42.550 --> 00:41:42.560 align:start position:0%
maybe while Aken gets back to us, I
 

00:41:42.560 --> 00:41:46.230 align:start position:0%
maybe while Aken gets back to us, I
don't<00:41:42.640><c> know</c><00:41:42.720><c> if</c><00:41:42.880><c> you</c><00:41:43.280><c> uh</c><00:41:43.839><c> one</c><00:41:44.079><c> that</c><00:41:44.319><c> I</c><00:41:45.280><c> uh</c><00:41:45.760><c> saw</c>

00:41:46.230 --> 00:41:46.240 align:start position:0%
don't know if you uh one that I uh saw
 

00:41:46.240 --> 00:41:52.309 align:start position:0%
don't know if you uh one that I uh saw
was<00:41:46.880><c> is</c><00:41:47.119><c> trauma</c><00:41:47.520><c> informed</c><00:41:48.079><c> practice.</c><00:41:49.440><c> Um</c>

00:41:52.309 --> 00:41:52.319 align:start position:0%
was is trauma informed practice. Um
 

00:41:52.319 --> 00:41:54.390 align:start position:0%
was is trauma informed practice. Um
sorry,<00:41:52.960><c> I</c><00:41:53.119><c> just</c><00:41:53.280><c> realized</c><00:41:53.520><c> my</c><00:41:53.760><c> mic</c><00:41:54.079><c> wasn't</c>

00:41:54.390 --> 00:41:54.400 align:start position:0%
sorry, I just realized my mic wasn't
 

00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:56.870 align:start position:0%
sorry, I just realized my mic wasn't
working,<00:41:54.720><c> but</c><00:41:54.960><c> it</c><00:41:55.359><c> should</c><00:41:55.520><c> be</c><00:41:55.680><c> now.</c><00:41:56.319><c> Um</c><00:41:56.640><c> yeah,</c>

00:41:56.870 --> 00:41:56.880 align:start position:0%
working, but it should be now. Um yeah,
 

00:41:56.880 --> 00:41:58.790 align:start position:0%
working, but it should be now. Um yeah,
I've<00:41:57.119><c> just</c><00:41:57.280><c> posted</c><00:41:57.599><c> the</c><00:41:57.839><c> questions</c><00:41:58.240><c> directly</c>

00:41:58.790 --> 00:41:58.800 align:start position:0%
I've just posted the questions directly
 

00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:03.270 align:start position:0%
I've just posted the questions directly
to<00:41:59.280><c> the</c><00:41:59.599><c> chat</c><00:42:00.000><c> for</c><00:42:00.800><c> um</c><00:42:01.359><c> yourself,</c><00:42:01.920><c> Ro</c><00:42:03.040><c> and</c>

00:42:03.270 --> 00:42:03.280 align:start position:0%
to the chat for um yourself, Ro and
 

00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:05.030 align:start position:0%
to the chat for um yourself, Ro and
Crystal<00:42:03.760><c> as</c><00:42:04.000><c> well.</c><00:42:04.240><c> We</c><00:42:04.480><c> had</c><00:42:04.640><c> some</c><00:42:04.800><c> great</c>

00:42:05.030 --> 00:42:05.040 align:start position:0%
Crystal as well. We had some great
 

00:42:05.040 --> 00:42:07.430 align:start position:0%
Crystal as well. We had some great
questions<00:42:05.440><c> came</c><00:42:05.839><c> come</c><00:42:06.079><c> through.</c>

00:42:07.430 --> 00:42:07.440 align:start position:0%
questions came come through.
 

00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:09.990 align:start position:0%
questions came come through.
Yeah.<00:42:08.400><c> Um</c>

00:42:09.990 --> 00:42:10.000 align:start position:0%
Yeah. Um
 

00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:12.470 align:start position:0%
Yeah. Um
so<00:42:10.480><c> one</c><00:42:10.720><c> of</c><00:42:10.800><c> the</c><00:42:11.040><c> questions</c><00:42:11.359><c> that</c><00:42:11.599><c> I'm</c><00:42:12.000><c> picking</c>

00:42:12.470 --> 00:42:12.480 align:start position:0%
so one of the questions that I'm picking
 

00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:15.270 align:start position:0%
so one of the questions that I'm picking
up<00:42:12.720><c> on</c><00:42:13.280><c> was</c><00:42:13.920><c> you</c><00:42:14.160><c> know</c><00:42:14.319><c> whether</c><00:42:14.960><c> trauma</c>

00:42:15.270 --> 00:42:15.280 align:start position:0%
up on was you know whether trauma
 

00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:18.550 align:start position:0%
up on was you know whether trauma
informed<00:42:15.680><c> practice</c><00:42:16.000><c> has</c><00:42:16.160><c> an</c><00:42:16.400><c> impact</c><00:42:16.720><c> on</c><00:42:17.839><c> um</c><00:42:18.240><c> on</c>

00:42:18.550 --> 00:42:18.560 align:start position:0%
informed practice has an impact on um on
 

00:42:18.560 --> 00:42:21.270 align:start position:0%
informed practice has an impact on um on
outcomes<00:42:19.119><c> for</c><00:42:19.359><c> clients</c><00:42:19.839><c> including</c><00:42:20.240><c> PTSD</c><00:42:21.119><c> for</c>

00:42:21.270 --> 00:42:21.280 align:start position:0%
outcomes for clients including PTSD for
 

00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:23.670 align:start position:0%
outcomes for clients including PTSD for
example.<00:42:22.319><c> And</c><00:42:22.560><c> one</c><00:42:22.800><c> thing</c><00:42:22.960><c> that</c><00:42:23.280><c> I</c><00:42:23.440><c> would</c><00:42:23.599><c> say</c>

00:42:23.670 --> 00:42:23.680 align:start position:0%
example. And one thing that I would say
 

00:42:23.680 --> 00:42:26.790 align:start position:0%
example. And one thing that I would say
is<00:42:23.920><c> that</c><00:42:24.079><c> we</c><00:42:24.400><c> increasingly</c><00:42:25.200><c> have</c>

00:42:26.790 --> 00:42:26.800 align:start position:0%
is that we increasingly have
 

00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:29.190 align:start position:0%
is that we increasingly have
it's<00:42:27.040><c> it's</c><00:42:27.599><c> early</c><00:42:27.920><c> days</c><00:42:28.160><c> in</c><00:42:28.319><c> a</c><00:42:28.560><c> research.</c><00:42:28.880><c> It's</c>

00:42:29.190 --> 00:42:29.200 align:start position:0%
it's it's early days in a research. It's
 

00:42:29.200 --> 00:42:31.990 align:start position:0%
it's it's early days in a research. It's
hard<00:42:29.359><c> to</c><00:42:29.599><c> do</c><00:42:30.240><c> really</c><00:42:30.640><c> good</c><00:42:31.040><c> research</c><00:42:31.440><c> within</c><00:42:31.760><c> a</c>

00:42:31.990 --> 00:42:32.000 align:start position:0%
hard to do really good research within a
 

00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:33.430 align:start position:0%
hard to do really good research within a
service<00:42:32.240><c> and</c><00:42:32.560><c> looking</c><00:42:32.800><c> at</c><00:42:32.960><c> the</c><00:42:33.119><c> actual</c>

00:42:33.430 --> 00:42:33.440 align:start position:0%
service and looking at the actual
 

00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:35.829 align:start position:0%
service and looking at the actual
reality<00:42:33.839><c> of</c><00:42:34.079><c> what</c><00:42:34.240><c> happens</c><00:42:34.560><c> in</c><00:42:34.720><c> a</c><00:42:34.880><c> service</c><00:42:35.599><c> but</c>

00:42:35.829 --> 00:42:35.839 align:start position:0%
reality of what happens in a service but
 

00:42:35.839 --> 00:42:37.750 align:start position:0%
reality of what happens in a service but
there<00:42:36.000><c> are</c><00:42:36.240><c> some</c><00:42:36.560><c> really</c><00:42:36.880><c> good</c><00:42:37.119><c> indication</c>

00:42:37.750 --> 00:42:37.760 align:start position:0%
there are some really good indication
 

00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:40.069 align:start position:0%
there are some really good indication
now<00:42:37.920><c> that</c><00:42:38.240><c> not</c><00:42:38.480><c> only</c><00:42:38.640><c> does</c><00:42:38.800><c> it</c><00:42:38.960><c> impact</c><00:42:39.359><c> on</c>

00:42:40.069 --> 00:42:40.079 align:start position:0%
now that not only does it impact on
 

00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:42.390 align:start position:0%
now that not only does it impact on
mental<00:42:40.480><c> health</c><00:42:40.800><c> outcome</c><00:42:41.359><c> and</c><00:42:41.680><c> well-being</c><00:42:42.160><c> for</c>

00:42:42.390 --> 00:42:42.400 align:start position:0%
mental health outcome and well-being for
 

00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:45.270 align:start position:0%
mental health outcome and well-being for
clients.<00:42:42.880><c> So</c><00:42:43.040><c> we</c><00:42:43.200><c> are</c><00:42:43.359><c> seeing</c><00:42:43.839><c> changes</c><00:42:44.720><c> not</c><00:42:45.040><c> in</c>

00:42:45.270 --> 00:42:45.280 align:start position:0%
clients. So we are seeing changes not in
 

00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:47.589 align:start position:0%
clients. So we are seeing changes not in
particular<00:42:46.000><c> particular</c><00:42:46.560><c> diagnosis</c><00:42:47.280><c> that's</c>

00:42:47.589 --> 00:42:47.599 align:start position:0%
particular particular diagnosis that's
 

00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:49.990 align:start position:0%
particular particular diagnosis that's
not<00:42:47.760><c> the</c><00:42:48.000><c> research</c><00:42:48.240><c> we</c><00:42:48.480><c> tend</c><00:42:48.720><c> to</c><00:42:48.880><c> see</c><00:42:49.440><c> but</c><00:42:49.760><c> we</c>

00:42:49.990 --> 00:42:50.000 align:start position:0%
not the research we tend to see but we
 

00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:55.109 align:start position:0%
not the research we tend to see but we
do<00:42:50.560><c> see</c><00:42:50.880><c> people</c><00:42:52.240><c> uh</c><00:42:52.480><c> reporting</c><00:42:53.599><c> uh</c><00:42:54.240><c> you</c><00:42:54.480><c> know</c>

00:42:55.109 --> 00:42:55.119 align:start position:0%
do see people uh reporting uh you know
 

00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:57.829 align:start position:0%
do see people uh reporting uh you know
much<00:42:55.440><c> better</c><00:42:56.400><c> uh</c><00:42:56.640><c> outcomes</c><00:42:57.280><c> in</c><00:42:57.520><c> terms</c><00:42:57.680><c> of</c>

00:42:57.829 --> 00:42:57.839 align:start position:0%
much better uh outcomes in terms of
 

00:42:57.839 --> 00:43:01.349 align:start position:0%
much better uh outcomes in terms of
their<00:42:58.160><c> functioning</c><00:42:58.960><c> their</c><00:42:59.200><c> mood</c><00:43:00.480><c> uh</c><00:43:00.800><c> their</c>

00:43:01.349 --> 00:43:01.359 align:start position:0%
their functioning their mood uh their
 

00:43:01.359 --> 00:43:02.950 align:start position:0%
their functioning their mood uh their
engagement<00:43:01.920><c> with</c><00:43:02.240><c> people</c><00:43:02.480><c> in</c><00:43:02.800><c> their</c>

00:43:02.950 --> 00:43:02.960 align:start position:0%
engagement with people in their
 

00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:05.270 align:start position:0%
engagement with people in their
day-to-day<00:43:03.520><c> life</c><00:43:03.920><c> but</c><00:43:04.160><c> we</c><00:43:04.319><c> also</c><00:43:04.640><c> see</c><00:43:04.880><c> really</c>

00:43:05.270 --> 00:43:05.280 align:start position:0%
day-to-day life but we also see really
 

00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:07.510 align:start position:0%
day-to-day life but we also see really
good<00:43:05.520><c> outcomes</c><00:43:06.000><c> for</c><00:43:06.240><c> workers</c><00:43:06.800><c> so</c><00:43:06.960><c> around</c><00:43:07.280><c> the</c>

00:43:07.510 --> 00:43:07.520 align:start position:0%
good outcomes for workers so around the
 

00:43:07.520 --> 00:43:09.589 align:start position:0%
good outcomes for workers so around the
well-being<00:43:08.000><c> and</c><00:43:08.240><c> mental</c><00:43:08.480><c> health</c><00:43:08.800><c> of</c><00:43:08.960><c> workers</c>

00:43:09.589 --> 00:43:09.599 align:start position:0%
well-being and mental health of workers
 

00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:12.790 align:start position:0%
well-being and mental health of workers
using<00:43:10.480><c> a</c><00:43:10.720><c> mental</c><00:43:11.200><c> health</c><00:43:11.839><c> um</c><00:43:12.079><c> a</c><00:43:12.240><c> traumatic</c><00:43:12.720><c> and</c>

00:43:12.790 --> 00:43:12.800 align:start position:0%
using a mental health um a traumatic and
 

00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:15.990 align:start position:0%
using a mental health um a traumatic and
form<00:43:13.359><c> approach.</c><00:43:14.240><c> So</c><00:43:14.400><c> that</c><00:43:14.720><c> was</c><00:43:14.880><c> one</c><00:43:15.200><c> of</c><00:43:15.520><c> answer</c>

00:43:15.990 --> 00:43:16.000 align:start position:0%
form approach. So that was one of answer
 

00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:18.950 align:start position:0%
form approach. So that was one of answer
that<00:43:16.319><c> I</c><00:43:16.880><c> I</c><00:43:17.359><c> could</c><00:43:17.599><c> see</c><00:43:17.920><c> there</c><00:43:18.240><c> that</c><00:43:18.560><c> we</c><00:43:18.720><c> could</c>

00:43:18.950 --> 00:43:18.960 align:start position:0%
that I I could see there that we could
 

00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:21.670 align:start position:0%
that I I could see there that we could
answer.<00:43:19.760><c> Uh</c><00:43:20.079><c> I</c><00:43:20.319><c> don't</c><00:43:20.400><c> know</c><00:43:20.800><c> Rahul</c><00:43:21.280><c> if</c><00:43:21.520><c> there</c>

00:43:21.670 --> 00:43:21.680 align:start position:0%
answer. Uh I don't know Rahul if there
 

00:43:21.680 --> 00:43:24.150 align:start position:0%
answer. Uh I don't know Rahul if there
was<00:43:21.920><c> one</c><00:43:22.560><c> question</c><00:43:22.960><c> there</c><00:43:23.200><c> that</c><00:43:23.599><c> you</c><00:43:23.920><c> would</c>

00:43:24.150 --> 00:43:24.160 align:start position:0%
was one question there that you would
 

00:43:24.160 --> 00:43:28.150 align:start position:0%
was one question there that you would
like<00:43:24.400><c> to</c><00:43:24.720><c> answer.</c><00:43:25.839><c> Um</c>

00:43:28.150 --> 00:43:28.160 align:start position:0%
like to answer. Um
 

00:43:28.160 --> 00:43:28.950 align:start position:0%
like to answer. Um
uh

00:43:28.950 --> 00:43:28.960 align:start position:0%
uh
 

00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:31.670 align:start position:0%
uh
um<00:43:29.359><c> look,</c><00:43:29.599><c> I</c><00:43:29.839><c> think</c><00:43:29.920><c> there</c><00:43:30.079><c> was</c><00:43:30.240><c> some</c><00:43:31.200><c> some</c>

00:43:31.670 --> 00:43:31.680 align:start position:0%
um look, I think there was some some
 

00:43:31.680 --> 00:43:34.710 align:start position:0%
um look, I think there was some some
commentary<00:43:32.480><c> around</c><00:43:33.280><c> the</c><00:43:33.520><c> role</c><00:43:33.760><c> of</c><00:43:33.920><c> power</c><00:43:34.560><c> uh</c>

00:43:34.710 --> 00:43:34.720 align:start position:0%
commentary around the role of power uh
 

00:43:34.720 --> 00:43:37.990 align:start position:0%
commentary around the role of power uh
as<00:43:34.880><c> well</c><00:43:35.119><c> in</c><00:43:35.359><c> collaborative</c><00:43:35.920><c> or</c><00:43:36.640><c> um</c>

00:43:37.990 --> 00:43:38.000 align:start position:0%
as well in collaborative or um
 

00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:40.630 align:start position:0%
as well in collaborative or um
uh<00:43:38.400><c> supported</c><00:43:38.880><c> decision-m</c><00:43:39.520><c> and</c><00:43:39.680><c> and</c><00:43:40.000><c> yes,</c><00:43:40.240><c> I</c><00:43:40.400><c> I</c>

00:43:40.630 --> 00:43:40.640 align:start position:0%
uh supported decision-m and and yes, I I
 

00:43:40.640 --> 00:43:42.390 align:start position:0%
uh supported decision-m and and yes, I I
absolutely<00:43:41.119><c> agree</c><00:43:41.359><c> that</c><00:43:41.680><c> you</c><00:43:41.839><c> know</c><00:43:41.920><c> the</c><00:43:42.160><c> focus</c>

00:43:42.390 --> 00:43:42.400 align:start position:0%
absolutely agree that you know the focus
 

00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:45.109 align:start position:0%
absolutely agree that you know the focus
is<00:43:42.720><c> on</c><00:43:42.960><c> helping</c><00:43:43.440><c> people</c><00:43:43.760><c> express</c><00:43:44.720><c> uh</c><00:43:44.880><c> and</c>

00:43:45.109 --> 00:43:45.119 align:start position:0%
is on helping people express uh and
 

00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.270 align:start position:0%
is on helping people express uh and
enact<00:43:45.520><c> their</c><00:43:45.760><c> own</c><00:43:46.000><c> views</c><00:43:46.640><c> uh</c><00:43:46.720><c> rather</c><00:43:47.040><c> than</c>

00:43:47.270 --> 00:43:47.280 align:start position:0%
enact their own views uh rather than
 

00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:49.589 align:start position:0%
enact their own views uh rather than
kind<00:43:47.440><c> of</c><00:43:47.520><c> imposing</c><00:43:48.000><c> those</c><00:43:48.240><c> on</c><00:43:48.400><c> others.</c><00:43:49.200><c> Uh</c><00:43:49.359><c> and</c>

00:43:49.589 --> 00:43:49.599 align:start position:0%
kind of imposing those on others. Uh and
 

00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:51.589 align:start position:0%
kind of imposing those on others. Uh and
sometimes<00:43:49.920><c> just</c><00:43:50.160><c> having</c><00:43:50.400><c> a</c><00:43:50.960><c> acknowledging</c>

00:43:51.589 --> 00:43:51.599 align:start position:0%
sometimes just having a acknowledging
 

00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:55.430 align:start position:0%
sometimes just having a acknowledging
the<00:43:51.839><c> power</c><00:43:52.720><c> situation</c><00:43:53.280><c> and</c><00:43:53.520><c> dynamic</c><00:43:54.560><c> uh</c>

00:43:55.430 --> 00:43:55.440 align:start position:0%
the power situation and dynamic uh
 

00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:58.309 align:start position:0%
the power situation and dynamic uh
within<00:43:55.920><c> that</c><00:43:56.160><c> conversation</c><00:43:56.720><c> itself</c><00:43:57.200><c> can</c><00:43:57.440><c> be</c>

00:43:58.309 --> 00:43:58.319 align:start position:0%
within that conversation itself can be
 

00:43:58.319 --> 00:44:00.950 align:start position:0%
within that conversation itself can be
uh<00:43:58.480><c> really</c><00:43:58.800><c> empowering.</c><00:43:59.920><c> Uh</c><00:44:00.160><c> Shane</c><00:44:00.480><c> also</c><00:44:00.800><c> had</c>

00:44:00.950 --> 00:44:00.960 align:start position:0%
uh really empowering. Uh Shane also had
 

00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:03.349 align:start position:0%
uh really empowering. Uh Shane also had
an<00:44:01.119><c> a</c><00:44:01.440><c> question</c><00:44:01.680><c> there</c><00:44:02.000><c> around</c><00:44:02.960><c> planned</c>

00:44:03.349 --> 00:44:03.359 align:start position:0%
an a question there around planned
 

00:44:03.359 --> 00:44:05.829 align:start position:0%
an a question there around planned
admissions<00:44:04.160><c> for</c><00:44:04.640><c> clients</c><00:44:04.880><c> with</c><00:44:05.119><c> BPT</c><00:44:05.599><c> and</c>

00:44:05.829 --> 00:44:05.839 align:start position:0%
admissions for clients with BPT and
 

00:44:05.839 --> 00:44:08.630 align:start position:0%
admissions for clients with BPT and
whether<00:44:06.079><c> they're</c><00:44:06.640><c> uh</c><00:44:06.800><c> beneficial.</c><00:44:08.079><c> Look,</c><00:44:08.400><c> I</c>

00:44:08.630 --> 00:44:08.640 align:start position:0%
whether they're uh beneficial. Look, I
 

00:44:08.640 --> 00:44:11.910 align:start position:0%
whether they're uh beneficial. Look, I
I've<00:44:08.960><c> had</c><00:44:10.000><c> um</c>

00:44:11.910 --> 00:44:11.920 align:start position:0%
I've had um
 

00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:13.990 align:start position:0%
I've had um
I've<00:44:12.240><c> come</c><00:44:12.400><c> in</c><00:44:12.560><c> a</c><00:44:12.640><c> bit</c><00:44:12.800><c> of</c><00:44:12.800><c> a</c><00:44:13.040><c> circle</c><00:44:13.359><c> on</c><00:44:13.520><c> on</c>

00:44:13.990 --> 00:44:14.000 align:start position:0%
I've come in a bit of a circle on on
 

00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:17.589 align:start position:0%
I've come in a bit of a circle on on
this<00:44:14.240><c> question.</c><00:44:14.800><c> So</c><00:44:15.119><c> I</c><00:44:15.280><c> I</c><00:44:15.760><c> suppose</c>

00:44:17.589 --> 00:44:17.599 align:start position:0%
this question. So I I suppose
 

00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:21.670 align:start position:0%
this question. So I I suppose
um<00:44:18.400><c> my</c><00:44:18.720><c> reflection</c><00:44:19.200><c> is</c><00:44:19.520><c> that</c><00:44:20.160><c> unfortunately</c>

00:44:21.670 --> 00:44:21.680 align:start position:0%
um my reflection is that unfortunately
 

00:44:21.680 --> 00:44:24.309 align:start position:0%
um my reflection is that unfortunately
an<00:44:22.000><c> aspect</c><00:44:22.480><c> about</c><00:44:23.119><c> what</c><00:44:23.359><c> is</c><00:44:23.599><c> beneficial</c><00:44:24.000><c> and</c>

00:44:24.309 --> 00:44:24.319 align:start position:0%
an aspect about what is beneficial and
 

00:44:24.319 --> 00:44:25.990 align:start position:0%
an aspect about what is beneficial and
not<00:44:24.640><c> kind</c><00:44:24.800><c> of</c><00:44:24.880><c> just</c><00:44:25.119><c> comes</c><00:44:25.280><c> from</c><00:44:25.440><c> the</c><00:44:25.680><c> reality</c>

00:44:25.990 --> 00:44:26.000 align:start position:0%
not kind of just comes from the reality
 

00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:27.829 align:start position:0%
not kind of just comes from the reality
of<00:44:26.160><c> often</c><00:44:26.560><c> individual</c><00:44:26.960><c> units</c><00:44:27.280><c> or</c><00:44:27.440><c> the</c><00:44:27.599><c> models</c>

00:44:27.829 --> 00:44:27.839 align:start position:0%
of often individual units or the models
 

00:44:27.839 --> 00:44:30.230 align:start position:0%
of often individual units or the models
of<00:44:28.000><c> care</c><00:44:28.240><c> that</c><00:44:28.400><c> we</c><00:44:28.560><c> we</c><00:44:28.960><c> have.</c><00:44:29.280><c> So</c><00:44:29.440><c> I</c><00:44:29.680><c> think</c>

00:44:30.230 --> 00:44:30.240 align:start position:0%
of care that we we have. So I think
 

00:44:30.240 --> 00:44:33.510 align:start position:0%
of care that we we have. So I think
sometimes<00:44:30.720><c> we</c><00:44:30.960><c> can</c><00:44:31.200><c> conflate</c><00:44:32.560><c> um</c><00:44:32.960><c> like</c><00:44:33.200><c> what's</c>

00:44:33.510 --> 00:44:33.520 align:start position:0%
sometimes we can conflate um like what's
 

00:44:33.520 --> 00:44:34.790 align:start position:0%
sometimes we can conflate um like what's
actually<00:44:33.839><c> available</c><00:44:34.160><c> and</c><00:44:34.319><c> whether</c><00:44:34.560><c> it's</c>

00:44:34.790 --> 00:44:34.800 align:start position:0%
actually available and whether it's
 

00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:38.550 align:start position:0%
actually available and whether it's
helpful<00:44:35.359><c> versus</c><00:44:36.319><c> you</c><00:44:36.560><c> know</c><00:44:36.720><c> what</c><00:44:37.680><c> um</c><00:44:38.319><c> might</c>

00:44:38.550 --> 00:44:38.560 align:start position:0%
helpful versus you know what um might
 

00:44:38.560 --> 00:44:40.390 align:start position:0%
helpful versus you know what um might
have<00:44:38.800><c> worked</c><00:44:39.119><c> if</c><00:44:39.359><c> we</c><00:44:39.520><c> had</c><00:44:39.760><c> the</c><00:44:39.920><c> right</c><00:44:40.160><c> kind</c><00:44:40.319><c> of</c>

00:44:40.390 --> 00:44:40.400 align:start position:0%
have worked if we had the right kind of
 

00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:42.870 align:start position:0%
have worked if we had the right kind of
resourcing<00:44:40.880><c> or</c><00:44:41.040><c> or</c><00:44:41.359><c> approach.</c><00:44:42.240><c> Um,</c><00:44:42.560><c> so</c><00:44:42.720><c> I</c>

00:44:42.870 --> 00:44:42.880 align:start position:0%
resourcing or or approach. Um, so I
 

00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:45.990 align:start position:0%
resourcing or or approach. Um, so I
think<00:44:43.040><c> in</c><00:44:43.280><c> general</c><00:44:44.079><c> I'd</c><00:44:44.480><c> say</c><00:44:45.359><c> it's</c><00:44:45.680><c> best</c><00:44:45.839><c> that</c>

00:44:45.990 --> 00:44:46.000 align:start position:0%
think in general I'd say it's best that
 

00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:47.910 align:start position:0%
think in general I'd say it's best that
we<00:44:46.240><c> move</c><00:44:46.400><c> to</c><00:44:46.560><c> an</c><00:44:46.800><c> individual</c><00:44:47.200><c> approach</c><00:44:47.599><c> rather</c>

00:44:47.910 --> 00:44:47.920 align:start position:0%
we move to an individual approach rather
 

00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:50.870 align:start position:0%
we move to an individual approach rather
than<00:44:48.079><c> a</c><00:44:48.319><c> diagnosis-based</c><00:44:49.280><c> approach</c><00:44:50.560><c> um,</c><00:44:50.640><c> for</c>

00:44:50.870 --> 00:44:50.880 align:start position:0%
than a diagnosis-based approach um, for
 

00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:52.870 align:start position:0%
than a diagnosis-based approach um, for
these<00:44:51.119><c> things.</c><00:44:51.520><c> Um,</c><00:44:51.760><c> often</c><00:44:52.079><c> it</c><00:44:52.319><c> might</c><00:44:52.480><c> be</c><00:44:52.640><c> an</c>

00:44:52.870 --> 00:44:52.880 align:start position:0%
these things. Um, often it might be an
 

00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:55.910 align:start position:0%
these things. Um, often it might be an
individual<00:44:54.079><c> u</c><00:44:54.319><c> person's</c><00:44:54.720><c> style</c><00:44:55.040><c> of</c><00:44:55.280><c> coping</c><00:44:55.680><c> or</c>

00:44:55.910 --> 00:44:55.920 align:start position:0%
individual u person's style of coping or
 

00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:57.510 align:start position:0%
individual u person's style of coping or
their<00:44:56.079><c> spec</c><00:44:56.480><c> the</c><00:44:56.720><c> specifics</c><00:44:57.119><c> about</c><00:44:57.280><c> their</c>

00:44:57.510 --> 00:44:57.520 align:start position:0%
their spec the specifics about their
 

00:44:57.520 --> 00:44:59.109 align:start position:0%
their spec the specifics about their
trauma<00:44:57.920><c> experiences</c><00:44:58.319><c> that</c><00:44:58.560><c> will</c><00:44:58.720><c> determine</c>

00:44:59.109 --> 00:44:59.119 align:start position:0%
trauma experiences that will determine
 

00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:01.030 align:start position:0%
trauma experiences that will determine
whether<00:44:59.440><c> or</c><00:44:59.599><c> not</c><00:44:59.760><c> something</c><00:45:00.160><c> is</c><00:45:00.480><c> or</c><00:45:00.720><c> isn't</c>

00:45:01.030 --> 00:45:01.040 align:start position:0%
whether or not something is or isn't
 

00:45:01.040 --> 00:45:04.710 align:start position:0%
whether or not something is or isn't
beneficial<00:45:01.520><c> as</c><00:45:01.760><c> an</c><00:45:01.920><c> approach.</c>

00:45:04.710 --> 00:45:04.720 align:start position:0%
beneficial as an approach.
 

00:45:04.720 --> 00:45:08.069 align:start position:0%
beneficial as an approach.
Uh,<00:45:05.359><c> and</c><00:45:05.680><c> Christoel,</c><00:45:06.319><c> did</c><00:45:06.560><c> you</c><00:45:07.440><c> have</c><00:45:07.680><c> anything</c>

00:45:08.069 --> 00:45:08.079 align:start position:0%
Uh, and Christoel, did you have anything
 

00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:10.150 align:start position:0%
Uh, and Christoel, did you have anything
you<00:45:08.400><c> wanted</c><00:45:08.640><c> to</c><00:45:08.800><c> say</c><00:45:08.960><c> either</c><00:45:09.359><c> about</c><00:45:09.760><c> shared</c>

00:45:10.150 --> 00:45:10.160 align:start position:0%
you wanted to say either about shared
 

00:45:10.160 --> 00:45:13.990 align:start position:0%
you wanted to say either about shared
decision<00:45:10.640><c> making</c><00:45:11.440><c> or</c><00:45:12.480><c> uh</c>

00:45:13.990 --> 00:45:14.000 align:start position:0%
decision making or uh
 

00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:21.990 align:start position:0%
decision making or uh
or<00:45:14.319><c> any</c><00:45:14.560><c> of</c><00:45:14.720><c> the</c><00:45:14.960><c> questions</c><00:45:15.440><c> asked</c><00:45:15.920><c> so</c><00:45:16.240><c> far?</c>

00:45:21.990 --> 00:45:22.000 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:25.349 align:start position:0%
 
Thank<00:45:22.160><c> you.</c><00:45:22.400><c> On</c><00:45:23.680><c> mute.</c>

00:45:25.349 --> 00:45:25.359 align:start position:0%
Thank you. On mute.
 

00:45:25.359 --> 00:45:28.309 align:start position:0%
Thank you. On mute.
Yes.<00:45:25.839><c> Um,</c><00:45:26.240><c> I</c><00:45:26.400><c> was</c><00:45:26.560><c> just</c><00:45:26.800><c> thinking,</c><00:45:27.760><c> um,</c><00:45:28.000><c> I,</c>

00:45:28.309 --> 00:45:28.319 align:start position:0%
Yes. Um, I was just thinking, um, I,
 

00:45:28.319 --> 00:45:31.109 align:start position:0%
Yes. Um, I was just thinking, um, I,
yeah,<00:45:28.560><c> I</c><00:45:28.880><c> appreciate</c><00:45:29.359><c> I</c><00:45:29.680><c> appreciate</c><00:45:30.160><c> Ashley,</c>

00:45:31.109 --> 00:45:31.119 align:start position:0%
yeah, I appreciate I appreciate Ashley,
 

00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:35.030 align:start position:0%
yeah, I appreciate I appreciate Ashley,
um,<00:45:31.680><c> highlighting</c><00:45:32.720><c> the</c><00:45:33.040><c> difference</c><00:45:33.440><c> between</c>

00:45:35.030 --> 00:45:35.040 align:start position:0%
um, highlighting the difference between
 

00:45:35.040 --> 00:45:36.870 align:start position:0%
um, highlighting the difference between
collaborative<00:45:35.599><c> decision-m</c><00:45:36.160><c> and</c><00:45:36.400><c> supported</c>

00:45:36.870 --> 00:45:36.880 align:start position:0%
collaborative decision-m and supported
 

00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:39.750 align:start position:0%
collaborative decision-m and supported
decision-m<00:45:37.440><c> and</c><00:45:37.599><c> how</c><00:45:37.760><c> there</c><00:45:37.920><c> is</c><00:45:38.160><c> power.</c><00:45:38.960><c> Um,</c><00:45:39.520><c> I</c>

00:45:39.750 --> 00:45:39.760 align:start position:0%
decision-m and how there is power. Um, I
 

00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:42.870 align:start position:0%
decision-m and how there is power. Um, I
think<00:45:41.200><c> I</c><00:45:41.440><c> think</c><00:45:41.599><c> we</c><00:45:41.839><c> are</c><00:45:42.079><c> I</c><00:45:42.240><c> I</c><00:45:42.480><c> think</c><00:45:42.560><c> I'm</c><00:45:42.720><c> just</c>

00:45:42.870 --> 00:45:42.880 align:start position:0%
think I think we are I I think I'm just
 

00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:44.790 align:start position:0%
think I think we are I I think I'm just
echoing<00:45:43.200><c> what</c><00:45:43.359><c> Raul</c><00:45:43.839><c> was</c><00:45:44.000><c> saying</c><00:45:44.079><c> that</c><00:45:44.319><c> we</c><00:45:44.560><c> are</c>

00:45:44.790 --> 00:45:44.800 align:start position:0%
echoing what Raul was saying that we are
 

00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:47.589 align:start position:0%
echoing what Raul was saying that we are
moving<00:45:45.200><c> towards,</c><00:45:46.000><c> you</c><00:45:46.160><c> know,</c><00:45:46.800><c> supporting</c>

00:45:47.589 --> 00:45:47.599 align:start position:0%
moving towards, you know, supporting
 

00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:49.349 align:start position:0%
moving towards, you know, supporting
people<00:45:47.920><c> to</c><00:45:48.160><c> make</c><00:45:48.400><c> their</c><00:45:48.640><c> decisions</c><00:45:49.040><c> as</c><00:45:49.200><c> much</c>

00:45:49.349 --> 00:45:49.359 align:start position:0%
people to make their decisions as much
 

00:45:49.359 --> 00:45:53.589 align:start position:0%
people to make their decisions as much
as<00:45:49.599><c> possible.</c><00:45:50.560><c> Um,</c><00:45:51.200><c> but</c>

00:45:53.589 --> 00:45:53.599 align:start position:0%
as possible. Um, but
 

00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:57.430 align:start position:0%
as possible. Um, but
I<00:45:53.920><c> think</c>

00:45:57.430 --> 00:45:57.440 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:01.270 align:start position:0%
 
I<00:45:57.839><c> maybe</c><00:45:58.160><c> I'm</c><00:45:58.400><c> just</c><00:45:58.560><c> thinking</c><00:45:58.800><c> that</c><00:45:59.040><c> there</c><00:45:59.280><c> is</c>

00:46:01.270 --> 00:46:01.280 align:start position:0%
I maybe I'm just thinking that there is
 

00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:03.030 align:start position:0%
I maybe I'm just thinking that there is
both<00:46:01.520><c> both</c><00:46:01.839><c> are</c><00:46:02.079><c> still</c><00:46:02.240><c> needed</c><00:46:02.560><c> at</c><00:46:02.800><c> this</c><00:46:02.960><c> point</c>

00:46:03.030 --> 00:46:03.040 align:start position:0%
both both are still needed at this point
 

00:46:03.040 --> 00:46:07.430 align:start position:0%
both both are still needed at this point
in<00:46:03.359><c> time.</c><00:46:04.240><c> Um,</c>

00:46:07.430 --> 00:46:07.440 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:09.190 align:start position:0%
 
and<00:46:07.920><c> I</c><00:46:08.160><c> guess</c><00:46:08.240><c> I'm</c><00:46:08.480><c> just</c><00:46:08.640><c> really</c><00:46:08.880><c> thinking</c>

00:46:09.190 --> 00:46:09.200 align:start position:0%
and I guess I'm just really thinking
 

00:46:09.200 --> 00:46:11.750 align:start position:0%
and I guess I'm just really thinking
about<00:46:09.760><c> what</c><00:46:10.079><c> you</c><00:46:10.240><c> was</c><00:46:10.560><c> talking</c><00:46:10.880><c> about</c><00:46:11.280><c> earlier</c>

00:46:11.750 --> 00:46:11.760 align:start position:0%
about what you was talking about earlier
 

00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:15.829 align:start position:0%
about what you was talking about earlier
and<00:46:12.000><c> Laura</c><00:46:12.480><c> about</c><00:46:13.680><c> um</c><00:46:14.640><c> supporting</c><00:46:15.200><c> decision-m</c>

00:46:15.829 --> 00:46:15.839 align:start position:0%
and Laura about um supporting decision-m
 

00:46:15.839 --> 00:46:18.390 align:start position:0%
and Laura about um supporting decision-m
or<00:46:16.079><c> informed</c><00:46:16.960><c> providing</c><00:46:17.520><c> people</c><00:46:17.920><c> to</c><00:46:18.240><c> make</c>

00:46:18.390 --> 00:46:18.400 align:start position:0%
or informed providing people to make
 

00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:20.150 align:start position:0%
or informed providing people to make
informed<00:46:18.800><c> decisions</c><00:46:19.200><c> is</c><00:46:19.520><c> so</c><00:46:19.680><c> much</c><00:46:19.839><c> more</c><00:46:20.000><c> than</c>

00:46:20.150 --> 00:46:20.160 align:start position:0%
informed decisions is so much more than
 

00:46:20.160 --> 00:46:22.630 align:start position:0%
informed decisions is so much more than
about<00:46:20.480><c> providing</c><00:46:20.960><c> options</c><00:46:21.760><c> and</c><00:46:22.000><c> we</c><00:46:22.240><c> do</c><00:46:22.400><c> really</c>

00:46:22.630 --> 00:46:22.640 align:start position:0%
about providing options and we do really
 

00:46:22.640 --> 00:46:24.550 align:start position:0%
about providing options and we do really
need<00:46:22.800><c> to</c><00:46:23.440><c> I</c><00:46:23.680><c> don't</c><00:46:23.760><c> know</c><00:46:23.760><c> if</c><00:46:23.920><c> we'll</c><00:46:24.160><c> ever</c><00:46:24.319><c> get</c>

00:46:24.550 --> 00:46:24.560 align:start position:0%
need to I don't know if we'll ever get
 

00:46:24.560 --> 00:46:27.510 align:start position:0%
need to I don't know if we'll ever get
to<00:46:25.359><c> um</c><00:46:25.839><c> in</c><00:46:26.079><c> the</c><00:46:26.319><c> system</c><00:46:26.640><c> completely</c><00:46:27.119><c> removing</c>

00:46:27.510 --> 00:46:27.520 align:start position:0%
to um in the system completely removing
 

00:46:27.520 --> 00:46:30.390 align:start position:0%
to um in the system completely removing
the<00:46:27.760><c> power</c><00:46:28.000><c> of</c><00:46:28.319><c> a</c><00:46:28.640><c> worker</c><00:46:29.440><c> in</c><00:46:29.760><c> that</c><00:46:30.000><c> equation</c>

00:46:30.390 --> 00:46:30.400 align:start position:0%
the power of a worker in that equation
 

00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:33.670 align:start position:0%
the power of a worker in that equation
but<00:46:30.640><c> we</c><00:46:30.880><c> can</c><00:46:31.040><c> definitely</c><00:46:31.680><c> move</c><00:46:32.800><c> um</c><00:46:33.119><c> closer</c><00:46:33.520><c> and</c>

00:46:33.670 --> 00:46:33.680 align:start position:0%
but we can definitely move um closer and
 

00:46:33.680 --> 00:46:36.069 align:start position:0%
but we can definitely move um closer and
closer<00:46:34.160><c> to</c><00:46:34.400><c> reducing</c><00:46:34.800><c> that</c><00:46:35.040><c> imbalance</c>

00:46:36.069 --> 00:46:36.079 align:start position:0%
closer to reducing that imbalance
 

00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:38.150 align:start position:0%
closer to reducing that imbalance
through<00:46:36.960><c> really</c><00:46:37.280><c> meaningfully</c><00:46:37.920><c> thinking</c>

00:46:38.150 --> 00:46:38.160 align:start position:0%
through really meaningfully thinking
 

00:46:38.160 --> 00:46:41.990 align:start position:0%
through really meaningfully thinking
about<00:46:39.280><c> um</c><00:46:40.000><c> what</c><00:46:40.560><c> is</c><00:46:40.880><c> supported</c><00:46:41.280><c> decision-m</c>

00:46:41.990 --> 00:46:42.000 align:start position:0%
about um what is supported decision-m
 

00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:44.950 align:start position:0%
about um what is supported decision-m
what<00:46:42.160><c> is</c><00:46:42.400><c> collaborative</c><00:46:42.880><c> decision-m</c><00:46:44.319><c> and</c><00:46:44.640><c> not</c>

00:46:44.950 --> 00:46:44.960 align:start position:0%
what is collaborative decision-m and not
 

00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:48.069 align:start position:0%
what is collaborative decision-m and not
and<00:46:45.280><c> it</c><00:46:45.440><c> isn't</c><00:46:45.760><c> just</c><00:46:46.000><c> giving</c><00:46:46.400><c> a</c><00:46:46.560><c> or</c><00:46:46.800><c> b</c><00:46:47.280><c> it's</c><00:46:47.839><c> and</c>

00:46:48.069 --> 00:46:48.079 align:start position:0%
and it isn't just giving a or b it's and
 

00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:50.309 align:start position:0%
and it isn't just giving a or b it's and
it's<00:46:48.400><c> not</c><00:46:49.040><c> yeah</c><00:46:49.359><c> it's</c><00:46:49.680><c> so</c><00:46:49.839><c> much</c><00:46:50.000><c> more</c><00:46:50.160><c> than</c>

00:46:50.309 --> 00:46:50.319 align:start position:0%
it's not yeah it's so much more than
 

00:46:50.319 --> 00:46:52.230 align:start position:0%
it's not yeah it's so much more than
that<00:46:50.800><c> that's</c><00:46:50.960><c> all</c><00:46:51.200><c> I</c><00:46:51.359><c> really</c><00:46:51.520><c> say</c><00:46:51.680><c> on</c><00:46:51.839><c> that</c>

00:46:52.230 --> 00:46:52.240 align:start position:0%
that that's all I really say on that
 

00:46:52.240 --> 00:46:54.069 align:start position:0%
that that's all I really say on that
just<00:46:52.480><c> echoing</c><00:46:52.960><c> both</c><00:46:53.119><c> of</c><00:46:53.280><c> you</c>

00:46:54.069 --> 00:46:54.079 align:start position:0%
just echoing both of you
 

00:46:54.079 --> 00:46:58.470 align:start position:0%
just echoing both of you
yeah<00:46:54.800><c> yeah</c><00:46:55.839><c> uh</c><00:46:56.319><c> and</c><00:46:56.800><c> uh</c><00:46:56.960><c> also</c><00:46:57.520><c> we</c><00:46:57.839><c> had</c><00:46:58.160><c> a</c>

00:46:58.470 --> 00:46:58.480 align:start position:0%
yeah yeah uh and uh also we had a
 

00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:01.829 align:start position:0%
yeah yeah uh and uh also we had a
question<00:46:58.880><c> about</c><00:46:59.760><c> um</c><00:47:00.240><c> the</c><00:47:00.560><c> model</c><00:47:00.880><c> we</c><00:47:01.200><c> use</c><00:47:01.520><c> which</c>

00:47:01.829 --> 00:47:01.839 align:start position:0%
question about um the model we use which
 

00:47:01.839 --> 00:47:05.510 align:start position:0%
question about um the model we use which
you<00:47:02.160><c> are</c><00:47:02.400><c> right</c><00:47:03.119><c> uh</c><00:47:03.280><c> Karen</c><00:47:03.520><c> learn</c><00:47:03.839><c> is</c><00:47:04.160><c> based</c><00:47:04.480><c> on</c>

00:47:05.510 --> 00:47:05.520 align:start position:0%
you are right uh Karen learn is based on
 

00:47:05.520 --> 00:47:08.230 align:start position:0%
you are right uh Karen learn is based on
uh<00:47:05.680><c> Perry's</c><00:47:06.160><c> neurossequential</c><00:47:07.440><c> model</c><00:47:07.839><c> to</c><00:47:08.000><c> a</c>

00:47:08.230 --> 00:47:08.240 align:start position:0%
uh Perry's neurossequential model to a
 

00:47:08.240 --> 00:47:10.150 align:start position:0%
uh Perry's neurossequential model to a
certain<00:47:08.480><c> extent.</c><00:47:09.119><c> We</c><00:47:09.440><c> haven't</c><00:47:09.760><c> really</c>

00:47:10.150 --> 00:47:10.160 align:start position:0%
certain extent. We haven't really
 

00:47:10.160 --> 00:47:12.309 align:start position:0%
certain extent. We haven't really
changed<00:47:10.480><c> the</c><00:47:10.720><c> model</c><00:47:11.040><c> as</c><00:47:11.280><c> such.</c><00:47:11.520><c> We</c><00:47:11.760><c> just</c><00:47:12.079><c> made</c>

00:47:12.309 --> 00:47:12.319 align:start position:0%
changed the model as such. We just made
 

00:47:12.319 --> 00:47:14.470 align:start position:0%
changed the model as such. We just made
the<00:47:12.560><c> language</c><00:47:12.880><c> a</c><00:47:13.119><c> bit</c><00:47:13.280><c> more</c><00:47:13.520><c> accessible</c><00:47:14.160><c> in</c>

00:47:14.470 --> 00:47:14.480 align:start position:0%
the language a bit more accessible in
 

00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:17.430 align:start position:0%
the language a bit more accessible in
collaboration<00:47:15.359><c> with</c><00:47:16.319><c> the</c><00:47:16.560><c> people</c><00:47:16.800><c> we</c><00:47:17.119><c> worked</c>

00:47:17.430 --> 00:47:17.440 align:start position:0%
collaboration with the people we worked
 

00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:21.270 align:start position:0%
collaboration with the people we worked
with<00:47:17.920><c> because</c><00:47:19.359><c> um</c><00:47:19.920><c> a</c><00:47:20.160><c> lot</c><00:47:20.240><c> of</c><00:47:20.400><c> people</c><00:47:20.640><c> we</c><00:47:20.960><c> we</c>

00:47:21.270 --> 00:47:21.280 align:start position:0%
with because um a lot of people we we
 

00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:23.510 align:start position:0%
with because um a lot of people we we
talked<00:47:21.599><c> to</c><00:47:22.000><c> during</c><00:47:22.319><c> those</c><00:47:22.560><c> 18</c><00:47:22.880><c> months</c><00:47:23.280><c> found</c>

00:47:23.510 --> 00:47:23.520 align:start position:0%
talked to during those 18 months found
 

00:47:23.520 --> 00:47:25.030 align:start position:0%
talked to during those 18 months found
that<00:47:23.760><c> they</c><00:47:24.000><c> wanted</c><00:47:24.240><c> to</c><00:47:24.480><c> get</c><00:47:24.560><c> rid</c><00:47:24.720><c> of</c><00:47:24.880><c> the</c>

00:47:25.030 --> 00:47:25.040 align:start position:0%
that they wanted to get rid of the
 

00:47:25.040 --> 00:47:27.109 align:start position:0%
that they wanted to get rid of the
jargon<00:47:25.520><c> as</c><00:47:25.760><c> much</c><00:47:25.920><c> as</c><00:47:26.160><c> possible.</c><00:47:26.640><c> So</c><00:47:26.880><c> that's</c>

00:47:27.109 --> 00:47:27.119 align:start position:0%
jargon as much as possible. So that's
 

00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:31.109 align:start position:0%
jargon as much as possible. So that's
the<00:47:27.359><c> only</c><00:47:27.760><c> reason</c><00:47:29.119><c> uh</c><00:47:29.280><c> that</c><00:47:29.520><c> was</c><00:47:29.760><c> changed.</c><00:47:30.640><c> Uh</c>

00:47:31.109 --> 00:47:31.119 align:start position:0%
the only reason uh that was changed. Uh
 

00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:34.710 align:start position:0%
the only reason uh that was changed. Uh
not<00:47:32.000><c> in</c><00:47:33.040><c> in</c><00:47:33.359><c> terms</c><00:47:33.599><c> of</c><00:47:33.760><c> what</c><00:47:34.000><c> it</c><00:47:34.160><c> is,</c><00:47:34.400><c> it's</c>

00:47:34.710 --> 00:47:34.720 align:start position:0%
not in in terms of what it is, it's
 

00:47:34.720 --> 00:47:38.550 align:start position:0%
not in in terms of what it is, it's
really<00:47:34.960><c> the</c><00:47:35.200><c> same.</c><00:47:36.000><c> Uh</c><00:47:36.319><c> and</c><00:47:36.640><c> more</c><00:47:37.359><c> uh</c><00:47:38.160><c> being</c><00:47:38.400><c> a</c>

00:47:38.550 --> 00:47:38.560 align:start position:0%
really the same. Uh and more uh being a
 

00:47:38.560 --> 00:47:40.390 align:start position:0%
really the same. Uh and more uh being a
bit<00:47:38.720><c> more</c><00:47:38.960><c> precise,</c><00:47:39.599><c> you'll</c><00:47:39.920><c> see</c><00:47:40.000><c> in</c><00:47:40.240><c> the</c>

00:47:40.390 --> 00:47:40.400 align:start position:0%
bit more precise, you'll see in the
 

00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:43.349 align:start position:0%
bit more precise, you'll see in the
tools<00:47:40.880><c> around</c><00:47:41.680><c> what</c><00:47:42.240><c> what</c><00:47:42.480><c> it</c><00:47:42.720><c> does</c><00:47:42.880><c> in</c><00:47:43.119><c> terms</c>

00:47:43.349 --> 00:47:43.359 align:start position:0%
tools around what what it does in terms
 

00:47:43.359 --> 00:47:46.150 align:start position:0%
tools around what what it does in terms
of<00:47:43.520><c> behavior.</c><00:47:44.160><c> So</c><00:47:44.319><c> that's</c><00:47:45.359><c> um</c><00:47:45.680><c> that's</c><00:47:45.920><c> the</c>

00:47:46.150 --> 00:47:46.160 align:start position:0%
of behavior. So that's um that's the
 

00:47:46.160 --> 00:47:48.470 align:start position:0%
of behavior. So that's um that's the
only<00:47:46.480><c> reason.</c>

00:47:48.470 --> 00:47:48.480 align:start position:0%
only reason.
 

00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:51.750 align:start position:0%
only reason.
Yeah,<00:47:48.880><c> if</c><00:47:49.119><c> that</c><00:47:49.359><c> makes</c><00:47:49.599><c> sense.</c><00:47:50.560><c> Um</c><00:47:51.280><c> we're</c>

00:47:51.750 --> 00:47:51.760 align:start position:0%
Yeah, if that makes sense. Um we're
 

00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:54.790 align:start position:0%
Yeah, if that makes sense. Um we're
almost<00:47:52.160><c> at</c><00:47:52.400><c> the</c><00:47:52.640><c> end.</c><00:47:53.599><c> There</c><00:47:53.839><c> were</c><00:47:54.000><c> some</c><00:47:54.400><c> great</c>

00:47:54.790 --> 00:47:54.800 align:start position:0%
almost at the end. There were some great
 

00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:59.910 align:start position:0%
almost at the end. There were some great
questions.<00:47:55.920><c> Um</c><00:47:57.119><c> we</c><00:47:57.520><c> have</c><00:47:57.680><c> a</c><00:47:57.920><c> few</c><00:47:59.040><c> um</c><00:47:59.520><c> I</c><00:47:59.839><c> think</c>

00:47:59.910 --> 00:47:59.920 align:start position:0%
questions. Um we have a few um I think
 

00:47:59.920 --> 00:48:02.950 align:start position:0%
questions. Um we have a few um I think
that's<00:48:00.400><c> the</c><00:48:00.720><c> last</c><00:48:01.200><c> question</c><00:48:01.599><c> that</c><00:48:01.839><c> I've</c><00:48:02.079><c> seen.</c>

00:48:02.950 --> 00:48:02.960 align:start position:0%
that's the last question that I've seen.
 

00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:05.750 align:start position:0%
that's the last question that I've seen.
Uh<00:48:03.680><c> there</c><00:48:04.000><c> is</c><00:48:04.160><c> a</c><00:48:04.400><c> question</c><00:48:04.640><c> about</c><00:48:05.040><c> in</c>

00:48:05.750 --> 00:48:05.760 align:start position:0%
Uh there is a question about in
 

00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:07.589 align:start position:0%
Uh there is a question about in
embedding<00:48:06.319><c> trauma</c><00:48:06.640><c> informed</c><00:48:07.040><c> practice</c><00:48:07.359><c> in</c>

00:48:07.589 --> 00:48:07.599 align:start position:0%
embedding trauma informed practice in
 

00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:10.150 align:start position:0%
embedding trauma informed practice in
disaster<00:48:08.240><c> situation</c><00:48:09.440><c> especially</c><00:48:09.839><c> at</c><00:48:10.000><c> the</c>

00:48:10.150 --> 00:48:10.160 align:start position:0%
disaster situation especially at the
 

00:48:10.160 --> 00:48:12.150 align:start position:0%
disaster situation especially at the
early<00:48:10.400><c> stage.</c><00:48:10.880><c> I</c><00:48:11.200><c> think</c><00:48:11.280><c> some</c><00:48:11.520><c> of</c><00:48:11.599><c> the</c><00:48:11.839><c> models</c>

00:48:12.150 --> 00:48:12.160 align:start position:0%
early stage. I think some of the models
 

00:48:12.160 --> 00:48:15.109 align:start position:0%
early stage. I think some of the models
we<00:48:12.480><c> have</c><00:48:12.640><c> for</c><00:48:12.960><c> his</c><00:48:13.200><c> disaster</c><00:48:13.760><c> work</c><00:48:14.640><c> are</c><00:48:14.880><c> trauma</c>

00:48:15.109 --> 00:48:15.119 align:start position:0%
we have for his disaster work are trauma
 

00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:17.109 align:start position:0%
we have for his disaster work are trauma
informed<00:48:15.599><c> in</c><00:48:15.760><c> the</c><00:48:15.920><c> sense</c><00:48:16.160><c> that</c><00:48:16.480><c> they</c><00:48:16.800><c> they</c><00:48:16.960><c> say</c>

00:48:17.109 --> 00:48:17.119 align:start position:0%
informed in the sense that they they say
 

00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:19.030 align:start position:0%
informed in the sense that they they say
don't<00:48:17.280><c> make</c><00:48:17.440><c> any</c><00:48:17.680><c> assumptions</c><00:48:18.319><c> about</c><00:48:18.640><c> rushing</c>

00:48:19.030 --> 00:48:19.040 align:start position:0%
don't make any assumptions about rushing
 

00:48:19.040 --> 00:48:22.470 align:start position:0%
don't make any assumptions about rushing
in<00:48:19.599><c> and</c><00:48:19.920><c> attending</c><00:48:20.560><c> to</c><00:48:21.280><c> a</c><00:48:21.520><c> particular</c><00:48:22.000><c> model</c>

00:48:22.470 --> 00:48:22.480 align:start position:0%
in and attending to a particular model
 

00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:24.390 align:start position:0%
in and attending to a particular model
psychological<00:48:23.280><c> intervention</c><00:48:23.920><c> that</c><00:48:24.160><c> in</c>

00:48:24.390 --> 00:48:24.400 align:start position:0%
psychological intervention that in
 

00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:27.750 align:start position:0%
psychological intervention that in
disaster<00:48:24.960><c> people</c><00:48:25.359><c> often</c><00:48:26.400><c> they</c><00:48:27.119><c> uh</c><00:48:27.440><c> you</c><00:48:27.599><c> know</c>

00:48:27.750 --> 00:48:27.760 align:start position:0%
disaster people often they uh you know
 

00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:29.349 align:start position:0%
disaster people often they uh you know
really<00:48:28.000><c> attending</c><00:48:28.400><c> to</c><00:48:28.559><c> what</c><00:48:28.720><c> the</c><00:48:28.960><c> person</c>

00:48:29.349 --> 00:48:29.359 align:start position:0%
really attending to what the person
 

00:48:29.359 --> 00:48:31.430 align:start position:0%
really attending to what the person
wants<00:48:29.680><c> at</c><00:48:29.920><c> that</c><00:48:30.160><c> point</c><00:48:30.319><c> in</c><00:48:30.559><c> time</c><00:48:30.720><c> in</c><00:48:30.960><c> disaster</c>

00:48:31.430 --> 00:48:31.440 align:start position:0%
wants at that point in time in disaster
 

00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:33.589 align:start position:0%
wants at that point in time in disaster
and<00:48:31.680><c> attending</c><00:48:32.400><c> and</c><00:48:32.640><c> also</c><00:48:32.960><c> having</c><00:48:33.200><c> that</c><00:48:33.359><c> view</c>

00:48:33.589 --> 00:48:33.599 align:start position:0%
and attending and also having that view
 

00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:35.109 align:start position:0%
and attending and also having that view
that<00:48:33.839><c> you're</c><00:48:34.079><c> not</c><00:48:34.240><c> just</c><00:48:34.400><c> attending</c><00:48:34.800><c> to</c><00:48:34.960><c> an</c>

00:48:35.109 --> 00:48:35.119 align:start position:0%
that you're not just attending to an
 

00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:37.349 align:start position:0%
that you're not just attending to an
individual<00:48:35.520><c> but</c><00:48:35.760><c> a</c><00:48:36.000><c> whole</c><00:48:36.160><c> community</c><00:48:36.880><c> and</c><00:48:37.119><c> an</c>

00:48:37.349 --> 00:48:37.359 align:start position:0%
individual but a whole community and an
 

00:48:37.359 --> 00:48:39.430 align:start position:0%
individual but a whole community and an
individual<00:48:37.839><c> within</c><00:48:38.160><c> a</c><00:48:38.400><c> community</c><00:48:39.200><c> which</c>

00:48:39.430 --> 00:48:39.440 align:start position:0%
individual within a community which
 

00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:41.270 align:start position:0%
individual within a community which
again<00:48:39.680><c> is</c><00:48:40.079><c> key</c><00:48:40.480><c> to</c><00:48:40.559><c> trauma</c><00:48:40.880><c> informed</c>

00:48:41.270 --> 00:48:41.280 align:start position:0%
again is key to trauma informed
 

00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:42.790 align:start position:0%
again is key to trauma informed
practice.<00:48:41.680><c> That</c><00:48:41.839><c> sense</c><00:48:42.079><c> that</c><00:48:42.319><c> we're</c><00:48:42.640><c> not</c>

00:48:42.790 --> 00:48:42.800 align:start position:0%
practice. That sense that we're not
 

00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:44.470 align:start position:0%
practice. That sense that we're not
looking<00:48:43.119><c> at</c><00:48:43.359><c> trauma</c><00:48:43.680><c> individually.</c><00:48:44.319><c> That's</c>

00:48:44.470 --> 00:48:44.480 align:start position:0%
looking at trauma individually. That's
 

00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:46.710 align:start position:0%
looking at trauma individually. That's
not<00:48:44.640><c> trauma</c><00:48:45.040><c> informed.</c><00:48:45.839><c> The</c><00:48:46.160><c> person</c><00:48:46.480><c> lives</c>

00:48:46.710 --> 00:48:46.720 align:start position:0%
not trauma informed. The person lives
 

00:48:46.720 --> 00:48:48.230 align:start position:0%
not trauma informed. The person lives
within<00:48:47.040><c> a</c><00:48:47.200><c> family</c><00:48:47.520><c> within</c><00:48:47.760><c> a</c><00:48:48.000><c> community</c>

00:48:48.230 --> 00:48:48.240 align:start position:0%
within a family within a community
 

00:48:48.240 --> 00:48:50.470 align:start position:0%
within a family within a community
that's<00:48:48.559><c> affected</c><00:48:49.280><c> and</c><00:48:49.520><c> that</c><00:48:49.760><c> impacts</c><00:48:50.160><c> on</c><00:48:50.319><c> the</c>

00:48:50.470 --> 00:48:50.480 align:start position:0%
that's affected and that impacts on the
 

00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:52.790 align:start position:0%
that's affected and that impacts on the
experience.<00:48:50.880><c> That's</c><00:48:51.200><c> particularly</c><00:48:51.839><c> that's</c>

00:48:52.790 --> 00:48:52.800 align:start position:0%
experience. That's particularly that's
 

00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:54.950 align:start position:0%
experience. That's particularly that's
important<00:48:53.280><c> in</c><00:48:53.599><c> disaster.</c><00:48:54.160><c> So</c><00:48:54.480><c> you</c><00:48:54.640><c> know</c><00:48:54.800><c> when</c>

00:48:54.950 --> 00:48:54.960 align:start position:0%
important in disaster. So you know when
 

00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:57.670 align:start position:0%
important in disaster. So you know when
you<00:48:55.119><c> see</c><00:48:55.280><c> those</c><00:48:55.520><c> disaster</c><00:48:56.000><c> where</c><00:48:56.240><c> you</c><00:48:56.480><c> send</c><00:48:56.880><c> 20</c>

00:48:57.670 --> 00:48:57.680 align:start position:0%
you see those disaster where you send 20
 

00:48:57.680 --> 00:49:01.829 align:start position:0%
you see those disaster where you send 20
psychologist<00:48:58.960><c> in</c><00:49:00.319><c> rushing</c><00:49:00.800><c> in</c><00:49:00.960><c> to</c><00:49:01.359><c> rescue</c>

00:49:01.829 --> 00:49:01.839 align:start position:0%
psychologist in rushing in to rescue
 

00:49:01.839 --> 00:49:04.309 align:start position:0%
psychologist in rushing in to rescue
people<00:49:02.319><c> and</c><00:49:02.640><c> work</c><00:49:02.800><c> on</c><00:49:02.960><c> their</c><00:49:03.280><c> trauma</c><00:49:04.000><c> actually</c>

00:49:04.309 --> 00:49:04.319 align:start position:0%
people and work on their trauma actually
 

00:49:04.319 --> 00:49:06.710 align:start position:0%
people and work on their trauma actually
is<00:49:04.480><c> not</c><00:49:04.640><c> trauma</c><00:49:05.040><c> informed</c><00:49:05.839><c> and</c><00:49:06.000><c> and</c><00:49:06.480><c> the</c>

00:49:06.710 --> 00:49:06.720 align:start position:0%
is not trauma informed and and the
 

00:49:06.720 --> 00:49:09.030 align:start position:0%
is not trauma informed and and the
models<00:49:07.040><c> that</c><00:49:07.200><c> we</c><00:49:07.440><c> have</c><00:49:07.599><c> now</c><00:49:07.920><c> really</c><00:49:08.720><c> talk</c>

00:49:09.030 --> 00:49:09.040 align:start position:0%
models that we have now really talk
 

00:49:09.040 --> 00:49:11.270 align:start position:0%
models that we have now really talk
against<00:49:09.440><c> that.</c><00:49:09.839><c> So</c><00:49:10.079><c> hopefully</c><00:49:10.559><c> that</c><00:49:10.880><c> answers</c>

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against that. So hopefully that answers
 

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against that. So hopefully that answers
your<00:49:11.599><c> question</c><00:49:12.079><c> Sue</c><00:49:12.400><c> around</c><00:49:12.880><c> disaster</c><00:49:13.359><c> and</c>

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your question Sue around disaster and
 

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your question Sue around disaster and
trauma.<00:49:14.720><c> Yeah.</c><00:49:15.599><c> And</c><00:49:15.839><c> I</c><00:49:16.079><c> think</c><00:49:16.240><c> that's</c><00:49:17.440><c> all</c><00:49:17.760><c> the</c>

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trauma. Yeah. And I think that's all the
 

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trauma. Yeah. And I think that's all the
time<00:49:18.319><c> we've</c><00:49:18.720><c> got</c><00:49:18.960><c> today</c><00:49:19.760><c> uh</c><00:49:19.920><c> in</c><00:49:20.160><c> terms</c><00:49:20.400><c> of</c><00:49:20.559><c> this</c>

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time we've got today uh in terms of this
 

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time we've got today uh in terms of this
webinar.<00:49:21.920><c> Uh</c><00:49:22.319><c> thank</c><00:49:22.480><c> you</c><00:49:22.720><c> so</c><00:49:23.040><c> much</c><00:49:23.200><c> for</c>

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webinar. Uh thank you so much for
 

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webinar. Uh thank you so much for
attending.<00:49:24.000><c> We're</c><00:49:24.240><c> very</c><00:49:24.640><c> grateful</c><00:49:25.200><c> for</c><00:49:25.839><c> all</c>

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attending. We're very grateful for all
 

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attending. We're very grateful for all
your<00:49:26.400><c> questions</c><00:49:26.960><c> and</c><00:49:27.200><c> your</c><00:49:27.599><c> thoughtfulness</c>

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your questions and your thoughtfulness
 

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your questions and your thoughtfulness
in<00:49:28.559><c> thinking</c><00:49:28.880><c> about</c><00:49:29.119><c> this</c><00:49:29.359><c> webinar.</c><00:49:30.559><c> uh</c><00:49:30.720><c> this</c>

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in thinking about this webinar. uh this
 

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in thinking about this webinar. uh this
webinar<00:49:31.359><c> will</c><00:49:31.599><c> be</c><00:49:31.760><c> recorded</c><00:49:32.240><c> and</c><00:49:32.319><c> available</c>

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webinar will be recorded and available
 

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webinar will be recorded and available
on<00:49:33.280><c> the</c><00:49:33.520><c> collaborative</c><00:49:34.400><c> c</c><00:49:34.559><c> center's</c><00:49:35.040><c> website</c>

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on the collaborative c center's website
 

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on the collaborative c center's website
and<00:49:36.240><c> as</c><00:49:36.480><c> I</c><00:49:36.640><c> said</c><00:49:36.880><c> the</c><00:49:37.280><c> the</c><00:49:37.440><c> web</c><00:49:37.760><c> the</c>

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and as I said the the web the
 

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and as I said the the web the
collaborative<00:49:38.880><c> center</c><00:49:39.119><c> is</c><00:49:39.280><c> also</c><00:49:39.599><c> working</c><00:49:40.000><c> to</c>

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collaborative center is also working to
 

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collaborative center is also working to
put<00:49:40.559><c> the</c><00:49:40.800><c> recording</c><00:49:41.440><c> of</c><00:49:42.480><c> the</c><00:49:43.760><c> um</c><00:49:44.960><c> the</c><00:49:45.280><c> webinar</c>

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put the recording of the um the webinar
 

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put the recording of the um the webinar
we<00:49:45.920><c> did</c><00:49:46.079><c> for</c><00:49:46.319><c> managers</c><00:49:46.800><c> and</c><00:49:47.040><c> leaders</c><00:49:47.520><c> as</c><00:49:47.760><c> well</c>

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we did for managers and leaders as well
 

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we did for managers and leaders as well
on<00:49:48.079><c> that</c><00:49:48.319><c> website</c><00:49:48.640><c> so</c><00:49:48.880><c> you'll</c><00:49:49.119><c> be</c><00:49:49.280><c> able</c><00:49:49.440><c> to</c>

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on that website so you'll be able to
 

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on that website so you'll be able to
access<00:49:50.079><c> both</c><00:49:50.880><c> we</c><00:49:51.119><c> would</c><00:49:51.359><c> encourage</c><00:49:51.760><c> you</c><00:49:51.920><c> to</c>

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access both we would encourage you to
 

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access both we would encourage you to
look<00:49:52.240><c> at</c><00:49:52.400><c> the</c><00:49:52.559><c> tools</c><00:49:52.960><c> that</c><00:49:53.280><c> that</c><00:49:53.680><c> really</c><00:49:54.000><c> help</c>

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look at the tools that that really help
 

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look at the tools that that really help
you<00:49:54.480><c> in</c><00:49:54.640><c> a</c><00:49:54.800><c> very</c><00:49:55.040><c> flexible</c><00:49:55.599><c> way</c><00:49:55.839><c> examine</c><00:49:56.319><c> your</c>

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you in a very flexible way examine your
 

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you in a very flexible way examine your
practice<00:49:57.440><c> so</c><00:49:57.920><c> thank</c><00:49:58.160><c> you</c><00:49:58.319><c> very</c><00:49:58.640><c> much</c><00:49:58.880><c> for</c>

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practice so thank you very much for
 

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practice so thank you very much for
joining<00:49:59.599><c> us.</c><00:50:00.000><c> We</c><00:50:00.319><c> wish</c><00:50:00.480><c> you</c><00:50:00.640><c> all</c><00:50:00.800><c> the</c><00:50:01.040><c> very</c>

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joining us. We wish you all the very
 

00:50:01.359 --> 00:50:04.079 align:start position:0%
joining us. We wish you all the very
best.

